Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:49156) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RsfNi-000848-Eg; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:58:17 -0800 Received: by dadv40 with SMTP id v40sf1563943dad.16 for ; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:58:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=qmLqrcZAJ4FmKMmmox76gY0tedEZ3/vr7SsZRsQMP2M=; b=BGcki3PZOCpf1E0DZzyv+zvQVc/vdJDx6ITPkNKmuDB1v4JjM0LiKRo7CcJgPyVNge u3WiegQdfbib8dY52SmtEBj3zW+Ay5DU+UxRULzVIvyC5JNUvkJ0900s4MpgSK+6/2vM tG6P94Kq+pjEhUgptGj26zgYc2UL0LekdJXDE= Received: by 10.68.233.168 with SMTP id tx8mr19340pbc.19.1328122681725; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.120.102 with SMTP id lb6ls9701059pbb.6.gmail; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.189.72 with SMTP id gg8mr54754pbc.4.1328122681006; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.189.72 with SMTP id gg8mr54753pbc.4.1328122680999; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c6si115000pbo.0.2012.02.01.10.58.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RsfNX-000844-10 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:57:59 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 10:57:58 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Pragmatics again : "Can we ask questions ?" "You've just asked one" Message-ID: <20120201185757.GI20579@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:34:38AM +0100, Escape Landsome wrote: > In Renato Dentato's comics, I find the following bit of dialogue : > > --- Can we ask questions ? > > --- You've just asked one ! > > Although this is perfectly logical, I find this a little heavy, > and I wonder if the purpose of Lojban is to underline (or avoid) > this kind of thing. You see, this bit of dialogue is something > which tries, (as it seems to me) to be "brilliant", but, in terms > of common daily speech capacity, it is rather just "idiotic". IMO that's not a language issue but rather a social issue. The response is either funny (rarely) or assholish (usually), depending on the social context and the sort of people you're talking to, not what language you're speaking in. I would feel entirely comfortable responding to the second line with {ko setca le stedu be do le nenri be le ganxo be do doi bebna .i ju'o do djuno le se zu'edji be mi} -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.