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[212.227.126.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p15si1177517eep.3.2012.02.01.23.50.37; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.126.171 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk) client-ip=212.227.126.171; Received: from [192.168.0.7] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MRhLp-1Rzi7R2sZd-00TY6E; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:50:37 +0100 From: kozmikreis Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Kids' Show Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 07:50:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <5fa921d5-666c-4d10-b450-9bfd91bc02cb@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <1784223.8.1328126426516.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqfa18> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:xJk8w5/F/HJEBKorQCUYxC8LJS9OewX3HJ/B6FNt2tW TNjFaFcAQxH/LzSaPAhGgYOu8p3fVlRehKriC+2TZagUjhijog PKqt2qyqyyc+RRYSL8rDAM8zR4vlLGmrj+HNDY1ZQt1cciM3AB lSiaEJ8LwTzUxQnJYSuF1td7bLDYyJh2ocnVu7yqBvnZqVQvx8 YMnObu9vbN5CT0qXghxrPmvOrv6HeeQ8Z4zikF+PcZlJI9dnU3 vBybSpybCWnZZ1R5JjpB7ELg4s42TqlED3jEAs454mQaTQ0lEx f0+JcNv3D/rbwK2PtmqsLaAtM0IG/OxtdeqMbjo0Qvqq24vB8b aQiKoCeY0HR3ZqKHu7olbjMKau3xvYPJjVYgRoWnnnobCRO5UM meikGMNMOMHuw== X-Original-Sender: kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.126.171 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk) smtp.mail=kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CA9C787D-2173-42D8-86DD-0AB21D582BAD" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --Apple-Mail=_CA9C787D-2173-42D8-86DD-0AB21D582BAD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Regarding plot, the pilot I wrote during the first iteration is more of a s= pace adventure: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Figgelppx0xep5HC7GRConr= 445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y/edit?hl=3Den_US For many kids I'd think this would be more appealing than themes based arou= nd geurillas and governments, but it largely depends on the age demographic= a kids' show is aiming for I suppose :-) kozmikreis On 2 Feb 2012, at 04:19, Jacob Errington wrote: > These are the instances in which I really would like all the chat in #loj= ban and #ckule to be logged, not just the lojban text. We could actually ba= se plot off of real individuals' learning experiences; it would make everyt= hing less artificial, I think. >=20 > I don't think that making the plot *about* learning lojban would be parti= cularly interesting, at least for those who have simply reached the phase w= here the acquisition of vocabulary and quick speech patterns is most import= ant. A plot about, hmm, lojbanist guerrillas trying to overthrow government= would be interesting :P >=20 > I do agree though, it could be very beginner-friendly, which the grammar = getting progressively more complicated as the story advances. This would de= finitely appeal to nintadni, for whom, in my opinion, there's unfortunately= too little reading material. >=20 > All this to say that I'd be interesting in writing plot and proofreading/= editing. >=20 > I hope this turns out :D >=20 > mu'o mi'e la tsani --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --Apple-Mail=_CA9C787D-2173-42D8-86DD-0AB21D582BAD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Regarding plot, the pilot = I wrote during the first iteration is more of a space adventure: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Figgelppx0x= ep5HC7GRConr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y/edit?hl=3Den_US

For= many kids I'd think this would be more appealing than themes based around = geurillas and governments, but it largely depends on the age demographic a = kids' show is aiming for I suppose :-)

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On 2 Feb 2012, at 04:= 19, Jacob Errington wrote:

These are the instances in which I really would like= all the chat in #lojban and #ckule to be logged, not just the lojban text.=  We could actually base plot off of real individuals' learning experie= nces; it would make everything less artificial, I think.

I don't think that making the plot *about* learning lojban w= ould be particularly interesting, at least for those who have simply reache= d the phase where the acquisition of vocabulary and quick speech patterns i= s most important. A plot about, hmm, lojbanist guerrillas trying to overthr= ow government would be interesting :P

I do agree though, it could be very beginner-friendly, = which the grammar getting progressively more complicated as the story advan= ces. This would definitely appeal to nintadni, for whom, in my opinion, the= re's unfortunately too little reading material.

All this to say that I'd be interesting in writin= g plot and proofreading/editing.

I hope this turns= out :D

mu'o mi'e la tsani

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