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[212.227.17.9]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z12si553454vde.0.2012.02.02.01.06.52; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.9; Received: from [10.203.242.193] ([82.132.216.195]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MFE4N-1Rm1vl34Pr-00GGii; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:06:51 +0100 References: <5fa921d5-666c-4d10-b450-9bfd91bc02cb@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <1784223.8.1328126426516.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqfa18> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: Cc: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: CosmicRay Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Kids' Show Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:06:41 +0000 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:jz3Y5DSCGGfFrenRMQdXDhnscgDs8+dN/ltBHQ3Yp4M oHYeqDHmewhfXTaj5FvLu/83axqk8uvuZghOxQ+1Q6HSKtqr7N lYZHWySxoM282axgjravZ8Ax5Xba2faDPX/BmjllXs94KriTw+ hbInsn6RSJYoYulfW+KWHzrir4XbPFF+lCfRGLIZF28GiYU+Wm aG66R6RUZnaJdu++55BZf8DRcLlgCN4XcMG6vY+M+cJrPhR/bb xB9NgpoSdcUE3wJzAN9uH3ErBIIt+mX216VI+G2VcWyI2jgbeI hwz1XagcIjlfpgh9zNCnXuS0hWnPqVbU4STpAl+wvNSVow+k5Z y4xmIeAvvrjRfpx8BXWx3fWgFxuyPrBcS4gJwezIf+FkTeSEPA sm89bQ5Z+pLSA== X-Original-Sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) smtp.mail=cr@cosmicray.co.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BC194A6D-6A55-49CE-9D60-7A211B19003C X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --Apple-Mail-BC194A6D-6A55-49CE-9D60-7A211B19003C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thinking about it, your idea is brilliant and would complement the original= plot perfectly. Back then, we discussed having a Dora The Explorer type of series (but less= crappy) aimed at 8 year olds, but with parallel story arcs to satisfy olde= r audiences. How about this: Earth-based disaffected Lojbanists who have been denied acc= ess to, or even been ejected from, the utopian life on the space station wo= uld be disgruntled to say the least. Seeing as the government is aware of = Lojgugde but appears to do nothing about its existence bar cover it up, the= y are seen by the angry Lojbanists to be complicit in their repressal. Now= , they decide to unite and attempt to set up their *own* Lojbanic state, on= Earth... kozmikreis -- Sent from my iPhone On 2 Feb 2012, at 07:50, kozmikreis wrote: > Regarding plot, the pilot I wrote during the first iteration is more of a= space adventure: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Figgelppx0xep5HC7GRCo= nr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y/edit?hl=3Den_US >=20 > For many kids I'd think this would be more appealing than themes based ar= ound geurillas and governments, but it largely depends on the age demograph= ic a kids' show is aiming for I suppose :-) >=20 > kozmikreis >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2 Feb 2012, at 04:19, Jacob Errington wrote: >=20 >> These are the instances in which I really would like all the chat in #lo= jban and #ckule to be logged, not just the lojban text. We could actually b= ase plot off of real individuals' learning experiences; it would make every= thing less artificial, I think. >>=20 >> I don't think that making the plot *about* learning lojban would be part= icularly interesting, at least for those who have simply reached the phase = where the acquisition of vocabulary and quick speech patterns is most impor= tant. A plot about, hmm, lojbanist guerrillas trying to overthrow governmen= t would be interesting :P >>=20 >> I do agree though, it could be very beginner-friendly, which the grammar= getting progressively more complicated as the story advances. This would d= efinitely appeal to nintadni, for whom, in my opinion, there's unfortunatel= y too little reading material. >>=20 >> All this to say that I'd be interesting in writing plot and proofreading= /editing. >>=20 >> I hope this turns out :D >>=20 >> mu'o mi'e la tsani >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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Thinking about it, your i= dea is brilliant and would complement the original plot perfectly.

Back then, we discussed having a Dora The Explorer type of= series (but less crappy) aimed at 8 year olds, but with parallel story arc= s to satisfy older audiences.

How about this: Eart= h-based disaffected Lojbanists who have been denied access to, or even been= ejected from, the utopian life on the space station would be disgruntled t= o say the least.  Seeing as the government is aware of Lojgugde but ap= pears to do nothing about its existence bar cover it up, they are seen by t= he angry Lojbanists to be complicit in their repressal.  Now, they dec= ide to unite and attempt to set up their *own* Lojbanic state, on Earth...<= /div>

kozmikreis

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On 2 Feb 2012, at 07:50= , kozmikreis <kozmikreis@loj= ban.org.uk> wrote:

Regarding plot, the pilot I wrote during the first iteration is more = of a space adventure: https://docs.go= ogle.com/document/d/1Figgelppx0xep5HC7GRConr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y/edit?hl=3D= en_US

For many kids I'd think this would be more app= ealing than themes based around geurillas and governments, but it largely d= epends on the age demographic a kids' show is aiming for I suppose :-)

kozmikreis


On 2 Feb 2012, at 04:19, Jacob Errington wrote:

These are the inst= ances in which I really would like all the chat in #lojban and #ckule to be= logged, not just the lojban text. We could actually base plot off of = real individuals' learning experiences; it would make everything less artif= icial, I think.

I don't think that making the plot *about* learning lojban w= ould be particularly interesting, at least for those who have simply reache= d the phase where the acquisition of vocabulary and quick speech patterns i= s most important. A plot about, hmm, lojbanist guerrillas trying to overthr= ow government would be interesting :P

I do agree though, it could be very beginner-friendly, = which the grammar getting progressively more complicated as the story advan= ces. This would definitely appeal to nintadni, for whom, in my opinion, the= re's unfortunately too little reading material.

All this to say that I'd be interesting in writin= g plot and proofreading/editing.

I hope this turns= out :D

mu'o mi'e la tsani

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