From an author's point of= view common enemies and their machinations make for an excellent stream of= plot devices and also act as highly potent points of sympathy/unification = between the passive observer (the reader/watcher) and the protagonists. &nb= sp;Vis. Harry Potter and pals vs. Voldemort et al. Yes it's trashy fi= ction but it's compelling and you can't help siding with the good guys.

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On 2 Feb 2012, at 14:52, david de= martin <davidandresloqu= ehay@gmail.com> wrote:

doi selpa'i : even for children... I don't think you'd want = to get read of War, the Boogyman, or in general, of things that are not rig= ht. If everything's all right from the very begining, there is nothing to d= o, no compelling story to make. Teletubbies will be for ever lame beca= use they lack a big bad wolf... and what use would be pinky and brain,= if they weren't up to take over the world ?

I even suspect that if you don't portray a real negativ= e figure, like an evil clawed dragon or a perverted cannibalistic teletubbi= e, something worth fighting against, the kids themselves would soon fill th= emselves the gap of the bad guy (and fancy themselves as some sort of telet= ubbie nemesis).

The reason is simply that a world were everything's all right is just = wrong (even for a small kid). It just doesn't match the way things are (or = the way things feel anyway).
So much so, that = if you try hard enough to convince someone that "everything is fine" just t= he way it is (having a job and going bowling on the week ends), that person= might well turn into a suicidal mass murderer, just for the heck of it (li= ke those kids in Colombine high school).

Why do you think a fairly normal guy (Anders Breivik) in one of the co= mfiest countries in the world (Norway) spent years cultivating the fantasy = of a muslim plot to take over Europe... why would he want to disrupt so bad= ly the society he lived in ?

my guess is: because "whatever people said", Brevik new there w= as still something wrong, something that needed unmasking it and killing it= . The moron was dramatically mistaken... but I think it is food for thought= .

conclusion: please, slaughter some teletubbies before i= t is too late :-)

mi'e david
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Rejection, war, taking over the world.. those things don't strike me as very positive and certainly aren't things I'd want to be associated with.
Why is it that every story needs war in it? It's not as if positive topics were boring, you know?
I always thought of the Lojban community as being very friendly and welcoming, but all this just sounds very negative, not to mention you seem to want this to be for children. I don't see why we should expose children to war, fighting, rebellions, hatred, etc. Instead, why not focus on ... Love and Tolerance?

Am 02.02.2012 10:50, schrieb CosmicRay:

More seriously, what would be done with criminally insane people, or evil infiltrators hell bent on exposing the existence of the space station? (R/)ejection may be the only solution.<= /div>

kozmikreis

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On 2 Feb 2012, at 09:47, CosmicRay <cr@cosmicray.co.uk> wrote:

Maybe for speaking Esperanto, loudly, in a cinema.

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