Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:61521) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RtbWB-0002JY-Bg; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:02:57 -0800 Received: by bke17 with SMTP id 17sf4261860bke.16 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:02:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=e+74ICfqug8YtefrOP+w9FkS834fdcB2CabvcrXZx+c=; b=Cc0hvx1gx75PoZfeVGcxGYu0nkaKjgzXCetTpFnx7PyA9pjRJlJ+OiEgTVYucTqVMg 8Zo+VL5/o0dLzXfeE9KNYTWLnEgXXku/jKz+3PVqIt/a+RXbFRRV/J+RgS2xGt7Jbz8M nVm0iTuKesdUu7lkSLKgZTRouiPZzl7XxYy5o= Received: by 10.204.10.72 with SMTP id o8mr628623bko.21.1328346156859; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:02:36 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.154.4 with SMTP id m4ls27539501bkw.1.gmail; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.133.213 with SMTP id g21mr813225bkt.3.1328346154336; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.133.213 with SMTP id g21mr813224bkt.3.1328346154305; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si12399836bko.3.2012.02.04.01.02.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.45; Received: by lahi5 with SMTP id i5so3054156lah.18 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:02:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.104 with SMTP id ip8mr5420721lab.15.1328346153606; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 01:02:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5fa921d5-666c-4d10-b450-9bfd91bc02cb@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <1175d027-7496-4143-9d14-763ded1f3c45@b18g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> <05D01DFA-5F70-4608-88D1-4714C6F2D486@gmail.com> <11396495.2099.1328290571980.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqks7> <9ff8b418-53f1-495d-bed7-69c922e441f2@m2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <10824171.2136.1328294490505.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqoe12> <0B7A67C8-F579-4F17-B062-6B2C2E400BE2@lojban.org.uk> <0368DA75-45E9-4AE8-846D-0569C96C851F@lojban.org.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 02:02:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids' Show From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0407152f9fde6704b81fb09f X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0407152f9fde6704b81fb09f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Or, alternatively, we can find someone who can, you know, draw. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > Well, as ayonis said it's very hard to make distinctive characters > with ComiPo (it's its greatest weakness) and I'm really working hard > to make the comics look passable. > > There are other options though. Kozmikreis example is great in using > 3d models (not sure if you used Daz Studio or Poser) and those can be > customized. This is a good example > http://inhermajestysservice.thecomicseries.com . > > I've seen others using models from Miku Miku Dance or Second Life but > much less satisfactory results (imho). > > One might even use something more abstract as "Strip Generator" > (http://s3.amazonaws.com/stripgenerator/strip/57/84/06/00/00/full.png). > I already checked with them and they are fine with redistribtion of > the images outside their site as long is not commercial). > > If I can help with the startup on using ComiPo I'll be happy to, but > maybe it would be better to wait for the ability to import 3D models > (which the Japanese version already has) to see if we can make some > more original artwork. > > remod > > > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Ali Sajid Imami > wrote: > > kozmikreis: > > I'll have to learn it, but sure. I can do it. > > And ComiPo lloks nice. > > On Feb 4, 4:30 am, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> I looked at ComiPo. All the characters at the least were done by it. > >> > >> He also said he sucks at drawing, which is a big hint in and of itself. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:23 PM, kozmikreis > wrote: > >> > Hmm, he said, "I use a long process involving four software: ComiPo!, > >> > Second LIfe, Gimp and Inkscape. It takes me two or three days at > least to > >> > make a page" - I may be wrong but I don't construe that as a program > doing > >> > all the drawing for him. > >> > >> > kozmikreis > >> > >> > On 3 Feb 2012, at 21:58, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> > >> > It's not his artwork. As he said, he used a program called ComiPo, > which > >> > did all the drawing for him. > >> > >> > to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. samcku toi > >> > >> > mu'o mi'e.aionys. > >> > On Feb 3, 2012 2:06 PM, "kozmikreis" > wrote: > >> > >> >> I'm not sure what that weird parallax effect is about other than to > >> >> distract. It'll be easy to turn off no doubt. > >> > >> >> banseljaj - does the underlying JS array style of pseudo markup > language > >> >> look like something you'd be happy using? > >> > >> >> remod - could you supply your gorgeous artwork? > >> > >> >> kozmikreis > >> > >> >> On 3 Feb 2012, at 18:41, la .lindar. wrote: > >> > >> >> Static. We're just doing frames. We may do -some- animation (like > camera > >> >> movements [panning?] and some small motions) later on. > >> > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> > "lojban" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > >> > >> -- > >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > >> > >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > >> (Come to the Dot Side! 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To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d0407152f9fde6704b81fb09f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or, alternatively, we can find someone who can, you know, draw.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com= > wrote:
Well, as ayonis said it's very hard to m= ake distinctive characters
with ComiPo (it's its greatest weakness) and I'm really working har= d
to make the comics look passable.

There are other options though. Kozmikreis example is great in using
3d models (not sure if you used Daz Studio or Poser) and those can be
customized. This is a good example
http://inhermajestysservice.thecomicseries.com .

I've seen others using models from Miku Miku Dance or Second Life but much less satisfactory results (imho).

One might even use something more abstract as "Strip Generator" (http://s3.amazonaws.com/stripgenerator/strip/57/84= /06/00/00/full.png).
I already checked with them and they are fine with redistribtion of
the images outside their site as long is not commercial).

If I can help with the startup on using ComiPo I'll be happy to, but maybe it would be better to wait for the ability to import 3D models
(which the Japanese version already has) to see if we can make some
more original artwork.

remod


On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Ali Sajid Imami
<ali.sajid.imami@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
> kozmikreis:
> I'll have to learn it, but sure. I can do it.
> And ComiPo lloks nice.
> On Feb 4, 4:30=A0am, Jonathan Jones <
eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I looked at ComiPo. All the characters at the least were done by i= t.
>>
>> He also said he sucks at drawing, which is a big hint in and of it= self.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:23 PM, kozmikreis <kozmikr...@lojban.org.uk> wrote:
>> > Hmm, he said, "I use a long process involving four softw= are: ComiPo!,
>> > Second LIfe, Gimp and Inkscape. It takes me two or three days= at least to
>> > make a page" - I may be wrong but I don't construe t= hat as a program doing
>> > all the drawing for him.
>>
>> > kozmikreis
>>
>> > On 3 Feb 2012, at 21:58, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>>
>> > It's not his artwork. As he said, he used a program calle= d ComiPo, which
>> > did all the drawing for him.
>>
>> > to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. samcku toi
>>
>> > mu'o mi'e.aionys.
>> > On Feb 3, 2012 2:06 PM, "kozmikreis" <kozmikr...@lojban.org.uk> wrote: >>
>> >> I'm not sure what that weird parallax effect is about= other than to
>> >> distract. =A0It'll be easy to turn off no doubt.
>>
>> >> banseljaj - does the underlying JS array style of pseudo = markup language
>> >> look like something you'd be happy using?
>>
>> >> remod - could you supply your gorgeous artwork?
>>
>> >> kozmikreis
>>
>> >> On 3 Feb 2012, at 18:41, la .lindar. wrote:
>>
>> >> Static. We're just doing frames. We may do -some- ani= mation (like camera
>> >> movements [panning?] and some small motions) later on. >>
>> > =A0--
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>>
>> --
>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>
>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o
>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
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