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[212.227.17.9]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x18si6099992eex.1.2012.02.04.01.22.38; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.9; Received: from [192.168.0.7] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M6wYn-1SnlHM3R6D-00xMu8; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:22:38 +0100 From: kozmikreis Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids' Show Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:22:37 +0000 In-Reply-To: To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <5fa921d5-666c-4d10-b450-9bfd91bc02cb@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <1175d027-7496-4143-9d14-763ded1f3c45@b18g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> <05D01DFA-5F70-4608-88D1-4714C6F2D486@gmail.com> <11396495.2099.1328290571980.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqks7> <9ff8b418-53f1-495d-bed7-69c922e441f2@m2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <10824171.2136.1328294490505.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqoe12> <0B7A67C8-F579-4F17-B062-6B2C2E400BE2@lojban.org.uk> <0368DA75-45E9-4AE8-846D-0569C96C851F@lojban.org.uk> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:vR5yeONSsOw1HipM79qZYbTw2sIjOMuqKY53Qs9GkjU 8UtUJ+2BGPmfPeZQXtd/nF1b+7IwEKd9Iy7EDwTTBijhIwfVw1 Iw1RRjgd87W2rgWmH3fkKBvkeb+LkN1moyK5JZ1wRhrwt1V+F1 ZQcXj0XioAhJwb4uN3KhDU7TpfqXO5boIJFJjK9ZNYwG8hSToo yC3oZp7OFLIjknUIh8X96/SwjcsLgrjD5KwhYo3waKxE5qhqOH fiHRxSNf58HAvTrKMphJp0VG/6vk0RcOeZ8jYc8269um40uhs8 HnuKQJRXNMhTRboyQ2ADeM/nGJS61SdcYdE+JMlC4KnPJm54DA BM5VsVVoWjeKucFErjXikFc4bVUB3FBcMkmmDvY342xQZtEz48 5ca1Vi0CPjHbg== X-Original-Sender: kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk) smtp.mail=kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4C508051-32A1-489E-A897-D96FCBCD9BEC" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --Apple-Mail=_4C508051-32A1-489E-A897-D96FCBCD9BEC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I can draw, several people can draw, but I want something that is drawn wel= l. remod's artwork looks good, irrespective of the methods by which it cam= e about. Do you have a positive contribution to add? Stating the obvious = is=85 Obvious. remod: I didn't create that demo, that was by the person who wrote the grap= hic novel engine, and it appears they in turn "borrowed" the imagery from g= ames. kozmikreis On 4 Feb 2012, at 09:02, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Or, alternatively, we can find someone who can, you know, draw. >=20 > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > Well, as ayonis said it's very hard to make distinctive characters > with ComiPo (it's its greatest weakness) and I'm really working hard > to make the comics look passable. >=20 > There are other options though. Kozmikreis example is great in using > 3d models (not sure if you used Daz Studio or Poser) and those can be > customized. This is a good example > http://inhermajestysservice.thecomicseries.com . >=20 > I've seen others using models from Miku Miku Dance or Second Life but > much less satisfactory results (imho). >=20 > One might even use something more abstract as "Strip Generator" > (http://s3.amazonaws.com/stripgenerator/strip/57/84/06/00/00/full.png). > I already checked with them and they are fine with redistribtion of > the images outside their site as long is not commercial). >=20 > If I can help with the startup on using ComiPo I'll be happy to, but > maybe it would be better to wait for the ability to import 3D models > (which the Japanese version already has) to see if we can make some > more original artwork. >=20 > remod --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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I can draw, several p= eople can draw, but I want something that is drawn well.  remod's artw= ork looks good, irrespective of the methods by which it came about.  D= o you have a positive contribution to add?  Stating the obvious is=85 =  Obvious.

remod: I didn't create that demo, t= hat was by the person who wrote the graphic novel engine, and it appears th= ey in turn "borrowed" the imagery from games.

kozm= ikreis



On 4 Feb 2012, at 0= 9:02, Jonathan Jones wrote:

Or, alternatively, we can find someone who can, you= know, draw.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:32 = AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, as ayonis said it's very hard to= make distinctive characters
with ComiPo (it's its greatest weakness) and I'm really working hard
to make the comics look passable.

There are other options though. Kozmikreis example is great in using
3d models (not sure if you used Daz Studio or Poser) and those can be
customized. This is a good example
http://inhermajestysservice.thecomicseries.com .

I've seen others using models from Miku Miku Dance or Second Life but
much less satisfactory results (imho).

One might even use something more abstract as "Strip Generator"
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/stripgenerator/strip/57/84= /06/00/00/full.png).
I already checked with them and they are fine with redistribtion of
the images outside their site as long is not commercial).

If I can help with the startup on using ComiPo I'll be happy to, but
maybe it would be better to wait for the ability to import 3D models
(which the Japanese version already has) to see if we can make some
more original artwork.

remod

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