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Subject: [lojban] Re: Very important comment: lojbanic wikiedia "but not
 lojban in wikipedia"
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Now taking bets. Mathw's interpretation: 10:2 Imami's interpretation
10:3
zo'o

On Feb 9, 7:00=A0pm, Matthew Walton <matt...@matthew-walton.co.uk>
wrote:
> I think he means that the effort to translate Wikipedia is pointless
> because it will go out of date too quickly.
> On Feb 9, 2012 1:13 PM, "Ali Sajid Imami" <ali.sajid.im...@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Also, I think he is talking about localizing wikipedia in lojban.
> > haven't we already done that?
>
> > On Feb 9, 5:57 pm, kozmikreis <mrp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > buroq_mat, have you tried usinghttp://translate.google.com/fromyour
> > > native language to English? =A0I just tried a quick and simplistic te=
st
> > > from English -> Arabic -> English and the result was passable. =A0It =
may
> > > be an indicator that the semantics are preserved well enough for
> > > automated translation by people whose English is not understandable.
>
> > > kozmikreis
>
> > > On Feb 9, 12:25 pm, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > He was talking about YOU using Lojban. Your English is so horrible
> > that we
> > > > can't understand you 99% of the time.
>
> > > > I would add that using your native language would probably work-
> > whatever
> > > > it is, I'm sure we have other people on here that speak it.
>
> > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:59 AM, buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk <
> > buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk
>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > coi
>
> > > > > In my opinion, no need to translate the Wikipedia to lojban -only=
 a
> > > > > few of wikipedia information we need to translate "for example po=
st-
> > > > > something only we need to translate" - because most of wikipedia
> > > > > information will be old information.
>
> > > > > co'o
>
> > > > > On Feb 6, 6:42 pm, Robin Lee Powell <rlpow...@digitalkingdom.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I can't understand anything you said at all.
>
> > > > > > Perhaps you could try Lojban?
>
> > > > > > -Robin
>
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 02:42:11AM -0800, buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk=
wrote:
> > > > > > > Please check the validity of anything I have to say before
> > applying,
>
> > > > > > > I have had contact with Wikipedia on this observation, that
> > there is a
> > > > > > > rule in the knowledge that "the information can be damaged" a=
nd
> > it
> > > > > > > most of the information in Wikipedia will be from the archive
> > and a
> > > > > > > few of them will be placed around the attention because it is
> > > > > > > practical and a final so we do not need to make the effort an=
d
> > time
> > > > > > > and money in translation of all to the Wikipedia in my opinio=
n to
> > > > > > > lojban "Maybe I'm wrong" because most of them will be old and=
 not
> > > > > > > implemented, but something which must be translated to the
> > lojban like
> > > > > > > "post-something...".
>
> > > > > > > mu'ymydnu,ur byruk
>
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> > > > > > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'=
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