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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:14:25 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > x1 is a cover/[lid/top] for covering/concealing/sheltering x2. > > x1 is a roof/top/ceiling/lid of x2. "a drudi is (designed to be) > over/above something and shelters it from other things above the > drudi" > > So one's a lid or a cover that shelters things, and the other's a > lid or a roof that shelters things? 0.o > > Are these straight-up synonyms or what? [...] Content analysis details: (0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see ] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.210.61 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature On Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:14:25 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > x1 is a cover/[lid/top] for covering/concealing/sheltering x2. > > x1 is a roof/top/ceiling/lid of x2. "a drudi is (designed to be) > over/above something and shelters it from other things above the > drudi" > > So one's a lid or a cover that shelters things, and the other's a > lid or a roof that shelters things? 0.o > > Are these straight-up synonyms or what? I'd say that lo drudi is fixed in place, whereas lo gacri isn't necessarily. Also, English distinguishes a roof and a ceiling. A ceiling is the top surface of a room and is usually horizontal. A roof is the part that covers the rest of a building and is usually sloped. It is possible, but not common, for the roof and ceiling to be the same; usually the ceiling is under the roof, and the space between them is the attic. If a building has several stories, each floor, except the lowest, is also a ceiling, but is not a roof. How do we distinguish these in Lojban? Pierre -- gau do li'i co'e kei do -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.