Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:54513) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rwd44-0006K4-Kx; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:21 -0800 Received: by bkty15 with SMTP id y15sf5896052bkt.16 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=gpuL8KNQp+2Xq4K0H7JBW7cWzKgTKTTBhW4YBnb4HH0=; b=IMLdY5UTR7IH8urTHO7vRb/g6swBVeHmn3CVPeXu+9t4BvgIQfqHLwvCYqmw5YXuJW TIta51HxpoREQza/xFxYSHRLbVi/FAnzbFdgUL7Xmqv4UNlxTnCHkGTF2MMEdzo6GR7F byteoSkBeCCh45DMNRC/Vo4lLZzcrwdeXKYm4= Received: by 10.204.157.139 with SMTP id b11mr979747bkx.9.1329067085988; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.155.76 with SMTP id r12ls11035322bkw.3.gmail; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr1136405bkw.4.1329067084277; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr1136404bkw.4.1329067084257; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m020-f175.google.com (mail-lpp01m020-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3si19160258bka.0.2012.02.12.09.18.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.175; Received: by lbol12 with SMTP id l12so2917866lbo.34 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.32.1 with SMTP id e1mr4708463lbi.3.1329067083870; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F37E02C.4030602@kli.org> References: <71755244-3137-4bad-ac91-4304ffc5adab@v2g2000vbx.googlegroups.com> <4F37E02C.4030602@kli.org> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:18:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] About cmene? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554dff66ab0dd04b8c78b55 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec554dff66ab0dd04b8c78b55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And there's people like me, who don't even use their given name. (Which means "Gift of God"). On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > On 02/12/2012 08:30 AM, buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > >> coi >> >> Is not it better to convert the name of its meaning to the name of the >> lojban instead of converting the name of another language to the >> lojban? >> >> for example: >> Ali means in Arabic the high, after make a cmene become "yli" but if I >> want to make cmene from the meaning become "galtus", the converting >> from mening more clear. >> >> In general, people tend not to translate their names. If your name is > John, you don't usually go around saying "Hi, my name is God-is-Gracious." > People named David (or Muhammad for that matter) aren't known as "Beloved" > or "Dear" in English. > > Which is not to say you can't use a translation if you want to; it's up to > you how you choose to name yourself. But also be aware when you're naming > someone else. > > ~mark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/lojban?hl=en . > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On S= un, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Mark E. Shoulson <mark@kli.org> wrote:
On 02/12/2012 08:30 AM, buroq_mat@yahoo.co= .uk wrote:
coi

Is not it better to convert the name of its meaning to the name of the
lojban instead of converting the name of another language to the
lojban?

for example:
Ali means in Arabic the high, after make a cmene become "yli" but= if I
want to make cmene from the meaning become "galtus", the converti= ng
from mening more clear.

In general, people tend not to translate their names. =A0If your name is Jo= hn, you don't usually go around saying "Hi, my name is God-is-Grac= ious." =A0People named David (or Muhammad for that matter) aren't = known as "Beloved" or "Dear" in English.

Which is not to say you can't use a translation if you want to; it'= s up to you how you choose to name yourself. =A0But also be aware when you&= #39;re naming someone else.

~mark


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