Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:65404) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rx0hH-0000xB-Pv; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:32:26 -0800 Received: by wera13 with SMTP id a13sf14357870wer.16 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:32:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tetKBFpumPxMcYFPkcH5lTcOxJZB3Sfw6fhgnvsOdNM=; b=kn9JJ9aLvD+PQjPu1Yj+7e4vxu2fBmbSUDGPyvff7Gq+PhYWr319a43cV3sl6LIGYs CWWxwR/l5O7rjZPd3wnj7RyFUdr7ZVeLrLSR10C7vJOq9ZNxYgtNvcHHzwFwSHPlHnpy PpkK0YxFpDaPBWJOnRKdx43DSPEzSQH8b1imU= Received: by 10.216.135.209 with SMTP id u59mr700036wei.18.1329157930001; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:32:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.74.112 with SMTP id s16ls232041wiv.9.canary; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.92.196 with SMTP id co4mr1047508wib.2.1329157929618; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.92.196 with SMTP id co4mr1047507wib.2.1329157929609; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-f177.google.com (mail-we0-f177.google.com [74.125.82.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cy7si1586888wib.0.2012.02.13.10.32.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.177; Received: by mail-we0-f177.google.com with SMTP id a10so4334685wer.36 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.92.73 with SMTP id ck9mr26126859wib.2.1329157929503; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.8 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:31:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120211171425.GS2167@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201202111520.20738.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: Sid Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:01:29 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] What's the difference between gacri and drudi? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cntrational@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cntrational@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Maybe kumfa drudi for ceiling and dinju drudi for roofs? mi'e cntr On 12 February 2012 04:25, MorphemeAddict wrote: > The roof and the ceiling are NEVER the same. The ceiling is the inside > highest surface of an individual room, and the roof is the outside top > surface of a whole building. > > stevo > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> On Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:14:25 Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> > x1 is a cover/[lid/top] for covering/concealing/sheltering x2. >> > >> > x1 is a roof/top/ceiling/lid of x2. "a drudi is (designed to be) >> > over/above something and shelters it from other things above the >> > drudi" >> > >> > So one's a lid or a cover that shelters things, and the other's a >> > lid or a roof that shelters things? =A00.o >> > >> > Are these straight-up synonyms or what? >> >> I'd say that lo drudi is fixed in place, whereas lo gacri isn't >> necessarily. >> >> Also, English distinguishes a roof and a ceiling. A ceiling is the top >> surface >> of a room and is usually horizontal. A roof is the part that covers the >> rest >> of a building and is usually sloped. It is possible, but not common, for >> the >> roof and ceiling to be the same; usually the ceiling is under the roof, >> and >> the space between them is the attic. If a building has several stories, >> each >> floor, except the lowest, is also a ceiling, but is not a roof. How do w= e >> distinguish these in Lojban? >> >> Pierre >> -- >> gau do li'i co'e kei do >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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