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[82.71.48.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l8sm49457208wiy.5.2012.02.13.11.16.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:16:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids' Show/Comic References: <5fa921d5-666c-4d10-b450-9bfd91bc02cb@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <201202052047.32864.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201202061358.31103.phma@phma.optus.nu> <2093A42C-9A61-4639-8988-8B76B0E78534@lojban.org.uk> <66cfb6ef-0f9b-4e54-916c-9895f3d8bb09@j14g2000vba.googlegroups.com> From: Paul X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:16:02 +0000 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Original-Sender: mrpauw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mrpauw@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mrpauw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / The plot wasn't written with a graphic novel in mind, and I doubt many 8 ye= ar olds would be into the emo touchy-feely stuff. It's under a Creative Co= mmons license, feel free to fix it or write a better one. kozmikreis -- Sent from my iPhone On 13 Feb 2012, at 18:23, Sid wrote: > Well, in my experience, good visual novels generally have fairly > involved plots, usually about the interactions between characters > (naturally, since most dialogue is spoken/thought); they usually end > up being very touching and emotional. The kids show plot, in > comparison, seems a bit...middling. >=20 > Additionally, most people who're going to read this are adults -- > while they might read the game to help with their Lojban learning, > wouldn't it be better to make something that has an engaging plot and > story? Something that would really *motivate* them to continue > reading, to see what happens next -- and if you want to see what > happens next, you have to learn Lojban. That seems like a better way > of going about things, to me. >=20 > On 13 February 2012 23:36, kozmikreis wrote: >> That's an interesting question, I'm not sure how to answer that >> without more feedback. I would be very interested to hear your views >> (and everyone else's) on what does or doesn't make my original plot >> real/enjoyable/intended for children. >>=20 >> For those who haven't seen it, the draft and links to the other docs >> can be found at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Figgelppx0xep5HC7GR= Conr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y/edit >>=20 >> kozmikreis >>=20 >> On Feb 13, 5:49 pm, Sid wrote: >>> IMO, I'm a bit iffy on the "kids show" premise and plot. Why not make >>> it an actual visual novel, with a real plot, that people can enjoy? Or >>> is this actually intended for children? >>>=20 >>> mi'e cntr >>>=20 >>> On 12 February 2012 06:21, kozmikreis wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> Widening the net on finding a character artist, I'm guessing most peop= le will know someone outside Lojbanic circles who is good at drawing. Can = I ask you to ask the artists in your life to consider doing artwork for a p= roject that can, in return, give them: >>>=20 >>>> * Credit for their work, and a link. >>>> * A talking point in their portfolio. >>>> * Multilingual exposure. >>>> * Better sleep at night knowing they've done good in the world :-) >>>=20 >>>> The work required is not all that intense - we will be wanting images = of characters emoting and in some differing postures, angles and attire, bu= t they only get overlaid on the backgrounds at runtime and are re-used. >>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>=20 >>>> kozmikreis >>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro= ups "lojban" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googl= egroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/lo= jban?hl=3Den. >>=20 >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loj= ban?hl=3Den. >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. >=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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