Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:41900) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rx1Rj-0001Tp-G0; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:20:21 -0800 Received: by eekc14 with SMTP id c14sf881177eek.16 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:20:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=obK9wtHhLPGcSjOtkeAjFjaWwCo6+QpK30fOBhvUcow=; b=JuMN7JbUJuOJ0eDBtRDxiYytgI1QUWpPdFjIcVsjfNcNDTeBmJQTRkLWEtj/EuTqpI gstxArJ0NbgxeCX2ybka4PjVFvz3rOtg5vjPCjuVGK2IJYgxK29JTUrDRKn/MRq4XK7g X2reQ4rlHDJn1og84BDxtNIsSHjBgEPArY+AY= Received: by 10.216.132.222 with SMTP id o72mr996042wei.6.1329160809322; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:20:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.81.69 with SMTP id l47ls18168826wee.3.gmail; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.131.194 with SMTP id m44mr362313wei.0.1329160808339; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.131.194 with SMTP id m44mr362312wei.0.1329160808321; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ci2si156170wib.0.2012.02.13.11.20.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.173; Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id hi20so4750087wib.18 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.80.35 with SMTP id o3mr19853155wix.5.1329160808258; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:20:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.8 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:19:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5fa921d5-666c-4d10-b450-9bfd91bc02cb@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <201202052047.32864.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201202061358.31103.phma@phma.optus.nu> <2093A42C-9A61-4639-8988-8B76B0E78534@lojban.org.uk>

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From: Sid Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:49:28 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids' Show/Comic To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cntrational@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cntrational@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Sorry if I've chosen to ignore your message, since you think it's "emo touchy-feely". On 14 February 2012 00:46, Paul wrote: > The plot wasn't written with a graphic novel in mind, and I doubt many 8 = year olds would be into the emo touchy-feely stuff. =A0It's under a Creativ= e Commons license, feel free to fix it or write a better one. > > kozmikreis > > -- > Sent from my iPhone > > On 13 Feb 2012, at 18:23, Sid wrote: > >> Well, in my experience, good visual novels generally have fairly >> involved plots, usually about the interactions between characters >> (naturally, since most dialogue is spoken/thought); they usually end >> up being very touching and emotional. The kids show plot, in >> comparison, seems a bit...middling. >> >> Additionally, most people who're going to read this are adults -- >> while they might read the game to help with their Lojban learning, >> wouldn't it be better to make something that has an engaging plot and >> story? Something that would really *motivate* them to continue >> reading, to see what happens next -- and if you want to see what >> happens next, you have to learn Lojban. That seems like a better way >> of going about things, to me. >> >> On 13 February 2012 23:36, kozmikreis wrote: >>> That's an interesting question, I'm not sure how to answer that >>> without more feedback. =A0I would be very interested to hear your views >>> (and everyone else's) on what does or doesn't make my original plot >>> real/enjoyable/intended for children. >>> >>> For those who haven't seen it, the draft and links to the other docs >>> can be found at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Figgelppx0xep5HC7G= RConr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y/edit >>> >>> kozmikreis >>> >>> On Feb 13, 5:49 pm, Sid wrote: >>>> IMO, I'm a bit iffy on the "kids show" premise and plot. Why not make >>>> it an actual visual novel, with a real plot, that people can enjoy? Or >>>> is this actually intended for children? >>>> >>>> mi'e cntr >>>> >>>> On 12 February 2012 06:21, kozmikreis wrote= : >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Widening the net on finding a character artist, I'm guessing most peo= ple will know someone outside Lojbanic circles who is good at drawing. =A0C= an I ask you to ask the artists in your life to consider doing artwork for = a project that can, in return, give them: >>>> >>>>> * Credit for their work, and a link. >>>>> * A talking point in their portfolio. >>>>> * Multilingual exposure. >>>>> * Better sleep at night knowing they've done good in the world :-) >>>> >>>>> The work required is not all that intense - we will be wanting images= of characters emoting and in some differing postures, angles and attire, b= ut they only get overlaid on the backgrounds at runtime and are re-used. >>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>>> kozmikreis >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr= oups "lojban" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@goog= legroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/l= ojban?hl=3Den. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@google= groups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lo= jban?hl=3Den. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loj= ban?hl=3Den. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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