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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids' Show/Comic
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That's a shame because you've raised some interesting points, and even nega=
tive criticism can be useful :-)

kozmikreis

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On 13 Feb 2012, at 19:19, Sid <cntrational@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry if I've chosen to ignore your message, since you think it's "emo
> touchy-feely".
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> On 14 February 2012 00:46, Paul <mrpauw@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The plot wasn't written with a graphic novel in mind, and I doubt many 8=
 year olds would be into the emo touchy-feely stuff.  It's under a Creative=
 Commons license, feel free to fix it or write a better one.
>>=20
>> kozmikreis
>>=20
>> --
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 13 Feb 2012, at 18:23, Sid <cntrational@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Well, in my experience, good visual novels generally have fairly
>>> involved plots, usually about the interactions between characters
>>> (naturally, since most dialogue is spoken/thought); they usually end
>>> up being very touching and emotional. The kids show plot, in
>>> comparison, seems a bit...middling.
>>>=20
>>> Additionally, most people who're going to read this are adults --
>>> while they might read the game to help with their Lojban learning,
>>> wouldn't it be better to make something that has an engaging plot and
>>> story? Something that would really *motivate* them to continue
>>> reading, to see what happens next -- and if you want to see what
>>> happens next, you have to learn Lojban. That seems like a better way
>>> of going about things, to me.
>>>=20
>>> On 13 February 2012 23:36, kozmikreis <mrpauw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> That's an interesting question, I'm not sure how to answer that
>>>> without more feedback.  I would be very interested to hear your views
>>>> (and everyone else's) on what does or doesn't make my original plot
>>>> real/enjoyable/intended for children.
>>>>=20
>>>> For those who haven't seen it, the draft and links to the other docs
>>>> can be found at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Figgelppx0xep5HC7=
GRConr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y/edit
>>>>=20
>>>> kozmikreis
>>>>=20
>>>> On Feb 13, 5:49 pm, Sid <cntratio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> IMO, I'm a bit iffy on the "kids show" premise and plot. Why not make
>>>>> it an actual visual novel, with a real plot, that people can enjoy? O=
r
>>>>> is this actually intended for children?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> mi'e cntr
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On 12 February 2012 06:21, kozmikreis <kozmikr...@lojban.org.uk> wrot=
e:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Widening the net on finding a character artist, I'm guessing most pe=
ople will know someone outside Lojbanic circles who is good at drawing.  Ca=
n I ask you to ask the artists in your life to consider doing artwork for a=
 project that can, in return, give them:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> * Credit for their work, and a link.
>>>>>> * A talking point in their portfolio.
>>>>>> * Multilingual exposure.
>>>>>> * Better sleep at night knowing they've done good in the world :-)
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> The work required is not all that intense - we will be wanting image=
s of characters emoting and in some differing postures, angles and attire, =
but they only get overlaid on the backgrounds at runtime and are re-used.
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> kozmikreis
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