Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:50153) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RxHXj-0007YG-Lg; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:42 -0800 Received: by eekc14 with SMTP id c14sf1520728eek.16 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UOUe+nYC4gX9YlYfZNlkOdE/2JimBL1+pEw+ECeKKgs=; b=lLkiscnBXZ95ulUX8eoLcd+YZtfb0gQbbGPyPBSP+S4xJrvsD5o17s7q9ekSu4jZMG 7iDlTWgXUBB95CY0EuTa5JE9aQu29+ieeYpr64gCfO8azHq/I5uEyBEgBDmE8CCNKUtQ dxvEHaMBXngfY6H5xNlSjwj8BnBQ9dF0ZyJtc= Received: by 10.205.134.146 with SMTP id ic18mr1170785bkc.19.1329222685354; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.154.4 with SMTP id m4ls13835419bkw.1.gmail; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.129.137 with SMTP id hi9mr1836177bkc.8.1329222683294; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.129.137 with SMTP id hi9mr1836176bkc.8.1329222683269; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3si28121063bka.0.2012.02.14.04.31.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.45; Received: by lahi5 with SMTP id i5so6246654lah.32 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.32.1 with SMTP id e1mr7287489lbi.3.1329222682831; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:31:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <23480830.75.1329220790118.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel11> References: <5fa921d5-666c-4d10-b450-9bfd91bc02cb@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <201202052047.32864.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201202061358.31103.phma@phma.optus.nu> <2093A42C-9A61-4639-8988-8B76B0E78534@lojban.org.uk> <66cfb6ef-0f9b-4e54-916c-9895f3d8bb09@j14g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <16150381.1864.1329194163910.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynbo36> <4091160.1040.1329206598957.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjd19> <6afaa770-0832-4dbd-8f63-d98a0c253aaf@d15g2000yqg.googlegroups.com> <23453432.2102.1329215410475.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynje6> <169f569b-7345-487a-85ee-02996f0ef071@l16g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <23480830.75.1329220790118.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel11> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:31:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids' Show/Comic From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554dff6d66c3c04b8ebc56e X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec554dff6d66c3c04b8ebc56e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, if it's a graphic novel, my current favourite comics are the Powers series by Bendis and Oeming, and the Bleach manga by Tite Kubo. I'm not suggesting translating either of them by any means, I'm just suggesting things that could be used for inspiration. Also, for anyone who's actually planning on working on this, I suggest reading "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art" and "Making Comics: Storytelling Secrets of Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels ", both by Scott McCloud. Also, I have a quick question: is the intent to produce a book or series of books, or is it to produce a serial comic? In other words, book or strip? The line between the two is actually really thin- MegaTokyois a serially-produced series of comic books in which each of the pages is posted one at a time, and when the chapter is complete, the author finalizes the pages (inking, colouring, etc.) and publishes it in book form. I think doing this project in that way may be the best approach- it has the advantage of quick initial output time that comes with serially-produced comics, as well as the long-term advantages of books. I happen to like the idea of this project, mainly because of the advantage visual media present- it's pretty easy for someone to figure out gerku menas dog if they see a picture of someone petting one whilst saying {coi gerku xu nelci ti}, for example. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:59 AM, la .lindar. wrote: > We have a lot of lovely people right here on the forums who have given > some decent suggestions. From what I understand, people seem to want a more > intimate story line which develops the characters and forms an intimate > relationship between the characters and reader. However, we still have to > keep things simple at first in order to facilitate a larger number of > newbie readers. I think shelving the kids show plot for now would be good, > but in exchange I would like something slightly more... adult. > > A murder mystery? > A scandal? > Post-fic? > > Still takes place in the setting we're developing. > I would like the community to weigh in on this. > What sort of genre would you like to see? > (Ideas are brewing!) > ((I still want my test art!)) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/A-0w_MRtC6EJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --bcaec554dff6d66c3c04b8ebc56e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, if it's a graphic novel, my current favourite comics are the Powe= rs series by Bendis and Oeming, and the Bleach manga by Tite Kubo. I'm = not suggesting translating either of them by any means, I'm just sugges= ting things that could be used for inspiration.

Also, for anyone who's actually planning on working on this, I sugg= est reading "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art" and "Making Comic= s: Storytelling Secrets of Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels ", both by Scott McCloud.

Also, I have a quick question: = is the intent to produce a book or series of books, or is it to produce a s= erial comic? In other words, book or strip? The line between the two is act= ually really thin- MegaTokyo is a = serially-produced series of comic books in which each of the pages is poste= d one at a time, and when the chapter is complete, the author finalizes the= pages (inking, colouring, etc.) and publishes it in book form. I think doi= ng this project in that way may be the best approach- it has the advantage = of quick initial output time that comes with serially-produced comics, as w= ell as the long-term advantages of books.

I happen to like the idea of this project, mainly because of the advant= age visual media present- it's pretty easy for someone to figure out ge= rku menas dog if they see a picture of someone petting one whilst saying {c= oi gerku xu nelci ti}, for example.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:59 AM, la .lindar.= <lindarthe= bard@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a lot of lovely people right here on the forums who have given some= decent suggestions. From what I understand, people seem to want a more int= imate story line which develops the characters and forms an intimate relati= onship between the characters and reader. However, we still have to keep th= ings simple at first in order to facilitate a larger number of newbie reade= rs. I think shelving the kids show plot for now would be good, but in excha= nge I would like something slightly more... adult.

A murder mystery?
A scandal?
Post-fic?

Still takes place in the setting we're developi= ng.
I would like the community to weigh in on this.
What sort of genre would you like to see?
(Ideas are brewing!)
((I still want my test art!))

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