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On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 05:00:38PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
> I think even that happening once in a while is ok.  One of my
> co-workers is German who I would say is fluent in English but who
> every now and then will stop and have to ask "what is that word
> that means...".
> 
> I think it's unreasonable to say that a person isn't fluent just
> because they don't know every word.
> 
> I think commonness of the word has to come into play.  

Right, and that's what we don't have, because we don't have idiom.

-Robin

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