stevo

On Wed, Feb 15,= 2012 at 5:59 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org<= /a>> wrote:

My level of issues there are bad enough that= I'd refuse the term
"fluent" at this time, but I'm getting there. =A0:)

-Robin

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 05:51:13PM -0500, MorphemeAddict wrote:
> Not remembering words is not a sign of non-fluency. It happens to nati= ve
> speakers all the time. And to me, 'native' implies 'fluent= '.
>
> stevo
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> >
> > I think even that happening once in a while is ok. =A0One of my c= o-workers
> > is German who I would say is fluent in English but who every now = and then
> > will stop and have to ask "what is that word that means...&q= uot;.
> >
> > I think it's unreasonable to say that a person isn't flue= nt just because
> > they don't know every word.
> >
> > I think commonness of the word has to come into play. =A0If a per= son
> > struggles to remember the word "person" I'd say the= y're not fluent but a
> > person who struggles to remember "aggregate" could defi= nitely be "fluent".
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
> > = rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 08:17:36PM +0100, selpa'i wrote:<= br> > >> > You are not fluent in Lojban, based on what you describe= d.
> >>
> >> To be ultra-clear: I'm *not* fluent, I just don't thi= nk that what I
> >> actually described is sufficient to clearly, cut-and-dried de= termine
> >> that.
> >>
> >> How I now I'm not fluent is that I'm sitting there go= ing "Now, wait,
> >> what's the place structure of julne again? =A0Oh, hmm, wa= s it julne or
> >> junle?", and that sort of shit.
> >>
> >> -Robin
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