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I get it now. I assumed that "tel" was from "te", but it's from "stela".

duh. Thanks for your patience, guys.


stevo

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Friday, February 17, 2012 15:08:04 MorphemeAddict wrote:
> > How does "gasnu" fit into the words for 'lock' or 'unlock' or 'add a lo=
ck
> > to', i.e., telgau, toltelgau, telcaugau. It seems to me that the "gau"
> > component should be "ga'o", but there is a separate word "telga'o", not
> > equal to "telgau".
>
> "-gau" usually means "x1 makes that (whatever comes before gau, with its
> places shifted by 1)". x2 of "gasnu" is an event, which is the abstractio=
n
> of
> whatever comes before "gau". So:
> stela: x1 is a lock on x2 with mechanism x3
> telgau: x1 makes x2 be a lock on x3 with mechanism x4.
> "telgau", as I interpret it, does not imply that x3 is locked. A locksmit=
h
> takes a door which does not have a lock and puts a lock in it: that's
> "telgau". I put the key in the lock and turn it so that the door cannot b=
e
> opened without the key: that's "telga'ogau". The door cannot be opened
> without
> the key: that's "telga'o".
>
> Pierre
> --
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I get it now. I assumed that &quot;tel&quot; was from &quot;te&quot;, but i=
t&#39;s from &quot;stela&quot;.=A0<div><br></div><div>duh. Thanks for your =
patience, guys.=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>stevo<br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"im">On Friday, February 17, 2012 15:08:04 MorphemeAddict wrot=
e:<br>
&gt; How does &quot;gasnu&quot; fit into the words for &#39;lock&#39; or &#=
39;unlock&#39; or &#39;add a lock<br>
&gt; to&#39;, i.e., telgau, toltelgau, telcaugau. It seems to me that the &=
quot;gau&quot;<br>
&gt; component should be &quot;ga&#39;o&quot;, but there is a separate word=
 &quot;telga&#39;o&quot;, not<br>
&gt; equal to &quot;telgau&quot;.<br>
<br>
</div>&quot;-gau&quot; usually means &quot;x1 makes that (whatever comes be=
fore gau, with its<br>
places shifted by 1)&quot;. x2 of &quot;gasnu&quot; is an event, which is t=
he abstraction of<br>
whatever comes before &quot;gau&quot;. So:<br>
stela: x1 is a lock on x2 with mechanism x3<br>
telgau: x1 makes x2 be a lock on x3 with mechanism x4.<br>
&quot;telgau&quot;, as I interpret it, does not imply that x3 is locked. A =
locksmith<br>
takes a door which does not have a lock and puts a lock in it: that&#39;s<b=
r>
&quot;telgau&quot;. I put the key in the lock and turn it so that the door =
cannot be<br>
opened without the key: that&#39;s &quot;telga&#39;ogau&quot;. The door can=
not be opened without<br>
the key: that&#39;s &quot;telga&#39;o&quot;.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
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