Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:65062) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ryjou-0002ot-P7; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:28 -0800 Received: by wera13 with SMTP id a13sf3784939wer.16 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=WahSZtSQB9McO5gj31YrYM7u2yQZ7/8K0Je1lJY9Vpo=; b=3DgS58afvT88QpOeah19USuY9giKWB/Ndo60mkeZ+Qw59v2BQjBiGUCK+y+SFrkSYu fjIEhaueRCmb32jgoqtfs1kvYB0l4K/QRqRysSyi6ly57tiQqCoJMO4jTV1sCG2JZX2F z8GJ5DG8jkSttJfYY+C6a+eStj7fBJi/KwRnQ= Received: by 10.216.136.93 with SMTP id v71mr117964wei.14.1329569708249; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:08 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.213.3.210 with SMTP id 18ls1659960ebo.1.gmail; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.129.137 with SMTP id hi9mr962568bkc.8.1329569707029; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.129.137 with SMTP id hi9mr962567bkc.8.1329569707016; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si15974186bko.3.2012.02.18.04.55.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42; Received: by lagk11 with SMTP id k11so5487784lag.29 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 10.112.10.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.10.169; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.10.169]) by 10.112.10.169 with SMTP id j9mr5005316lbb.70.1329569706725 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.10.169 with SMTP id j9mr4181810lbb.70.1329569706667; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.110.105 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:55:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201202180002.25250.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201202180002.25250.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:55:06 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] masknonji From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > This is the largest pike. "masklonji" is invalid Or rather, it is the valid sentence "ma sklonji" >("lonji" has gismu form, > therefore "paklonji" has lujvo form, therefore "klonji" is a slinku'i, > therefore "sklonji" is valid). The conclusion is correct, but I don't follow the reasoning. I don't think "klonji" being a slinku'i has anything to do with it. "sklonjiju" is valid too, and yet "klonjiju" is not a slinku'i. > Is "masknonji" valid? By my rules and by vlatai > it is, but I'm not sure about xorxes's rules, because the "n" could be > syllabic. If -sk was allowed as a valid coda, then "mask,non,ji" would be valid. By my rules, the "n" cannot be syllabic here, because that would leave the following syllable without an onset. By my rules a syllabic consonant must always be followed (as well as preceded) by another consonant, or be at the end of a cmevla. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.