Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:58680) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RyuAA-0006jR-S3; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:58:03 -0800 Received: by bkty15 with SMTP id y15sf5206554bkt.16 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zzBVtOhXXoKaZGUwkpSo8+a+AcRBE/JVenZu3HCzzpI=; b=KlOhIdv2sm4TQHa9GIhADXdw2IchuJPckuFjhB3/5tNqc4Kz32lTfOOxxp0j+8aM1J H+71uL74rJ7yDZEz72eiiPmeeNYWtIknc5GTgycYR8K2QSSK8tRmkqWste5ihxikgL9i Cq6aZu0DMrcl78HPcWNlD1/wpa5YkYymU+AZQ= Received: by 10.205.134.14 with SMTP id ia14mr1198745bkc.0.1329609468846; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:48 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.42.74 with SMTP id r10ls6053144bke.6.gmail; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.153.5 with SMTP id i5mr1088647bkw.1.1329609467617; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.153.5 with SMTP id i5mr1088646bkw.1.1329609467605; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5si16547692bkz.0.2012.02.18.15.57.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.41; Received: by lamf4 with SMTP id f4so5329583lam.28 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 10.112.10.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.10.169; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.10.169]) by 10.112.10.169 with SMTP id j9mr5737608lbb.70.1329609467328 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.10.169 with SMTP id j9mr4787654lbb.70.1329609467283; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.110.105 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201202180002.25250.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:57:47 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] masknonji From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > 2012/2/18 Jorge Llamb=EDas >> >> [c, j, s, z] [b, d, f, g, k, m, n, p, t, v, x] [l, r] >> >> with the following constraints: >> - a voiced consonant from the first group cannot be followed by an >> unvoiced one from the second, and viceversa. >> - s, c cannot be followed by x >> - j, z cannot be followed by n or l >> - d, t cannot be followed by l >> - n cannot be followed by l, r > > What's the justification for these last four constraints? The designers probably found them harder to pronounce. They all happen not to occur as initials in English, except perhaps for "zl" as in "zloty", a borrowed word after all. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.