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  Getting back to Robin's original question, no, they are not synonyms,
although they can have some areas of overlap.  Here is how I would
differentiate them.  YMMV:

   A drudi is always above the se drudi.  A gadri need not be above the se
gadri (e.g. a bottlecap is still a gadri, even when the bottle is held
upside down)

   A drudi may or may not be physically attached to the se drudi.  A gadri
when in use is attached to the se gadri (e.g. a tarp stretched over a
flower patch is still a drudi)

   A drudi has a specific main purpose of protecting the se drudi from
something (which should probably be a te drudi, but the slot doesn't
exist).  A gadri can serve many purposes, such as preserving something
inside the se gadri or hiding the se gadri (or its contents) from
observation.

   A drudi is normally a fixed structure relative to se drudi, which is in
turn usually a fixed structure (although the drdi may be retractable or
removable, and probably vehicles posses a drudi rather than a gadri,
although I'm not sure. galpau might be more accurate).  A gadri on the
other hand is usually designed to be removed from time to time and the se
gadri is very possibly portable.

                        --gejyspa

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

>
> x1 is a cover/[lid/top] for covering/concealing/sheltering x2.
>
> x1 is a roof/top/ceiling/lid of x2. "a drudi is (designed to be)
> over/above something and shelters it from other things above the
> drudi"
>
> So one's a lid or a cover that shelters things, and the other's a
> lid or a roof that shelters things?  0.o
>
> Are these straight-up synonyms or what?
>
> -Robin
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 Getting back to Robin&#39;s original question, no, the=
y are not synonyms, although they can have some areas of overlap. =A0Here i=
s how I would differentiate them. =A0YMMV:<div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0A drud=
i is always above the se drudi. =A0A gadri need not be above the se gadri (=
e.g. a bottlecap is still a gadri, even when the bottle is held upside down=
)</div>
<div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0A drudi may or may not be physically attached to=
 the se drudi. =A0A gadri when in use is attached to the se gadri (e.g. a t=
arp stretched over a flower patch is still a drudi)</div><div><br></div><di=
v>
=A0 =A0A drudi has a specific main purpose of protecting the se drudi from =
something (which should probably be a te drudi, but the slot doesn&#39;t ex=
ist). =A0A gadri can serve many purposes, such as preserving something insi=
de the se gadri or hiding the se gadri (or its contents) from observation.<=
br>
<br>=A0 =A0A drudi is normally a fixed structure relative to se drudi, whic=
h is in turn usually a fixed structure (although the drdi may be retractabl=
e or removable, and probably vehicles posses a drudi rather than a gadri, a=
lthough I&#39;m not sure. galpau might be more accurate). =A0A gadri on the=
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gadri is very possibly portable.</div>
<div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejys=
pa<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sa=
t, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Robin Lee Powell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org">rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
x1 is a cover/[lid/top] for covering/concealing/sheltering x2.<br>
<br>
x1 is a roof/top/ceiling/lid of x2. &quot;a drudi is (designed to be)<br>
over/above something and shelters it from other things above the<br>
drudi&quot;<br>
<br>
So one&#39;s a lid or a cover that shelters things, and the other&#39;s a<b=
r>
lid or a roof that shelters things? =A00.o<br>
<br>
Are these straight-up synonyms or what?<br>
<br>
-Robin<br>
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 : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.<br>
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go&#39;i li&#39;u =
.e<br>
lu go&#39;i li&#39;u .i ji&#39;a go&#39;i lu na&#39;e go&#39;i li&#39;u .e =
lu go&#39;i na&#39;i li&#39;u .e<br>
lu no&#39;e go&#39;i li&#39;u .e lu to&#39;e go&#39;i li&#39;u .e lu lo mam=
ta be do cu sofybakni li&#39;u<br>
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