Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:55439) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RzZzL-0004VF-7Z; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:42 -0800 Received: by ghbg22 with SMTP id g22sf6929513ghb.16 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=KKanCKtM53t1vnCLfLXGmRSaUCxLIF8y5DYI8Qs9Bzg=; b=VK+sKbbOSKx7RNASx3Lv926dhlyJ3MLDZV5kGj+5C2U+pbWaTKCucJsXMKIRU2Th5K x6LBk+voa9l2gSRmIQ4l0EzNlWKfXub6mPRepFGmRKxaSJEbEpx4SGGtoCsSk5YCzvBI qoR+vvtTvFTNQhpPcX7mcLMqH8UGqWwDKCIfY= Received: by 10.50.77.135 with SMTP id s7mr3712467igw.6.1329770246369; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:26 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.37.68 with SMTP id w4ls9771339igj.6.gmail; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.41.202 with SMTP id h10mr4092641igl.5.1329770245109; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.41.202 with SMTP id h10mr4092639igl.5.1329770245101; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f175.google.com (mail-iy0-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cg1si2194629igb.0.2012.02.20.12.37.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.175; Received: by mail-iy0-f175.google.com with SMTP id y12so10317750iab.34 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 10.43.134.199 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.43.134.199; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.43.134.199]) by 10.43.134.199 with SMTP id id7mr23242474icc.21.1329770245085 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.134.199 with SMTP id id7mr18575328icc.21.1329770245005; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.133.73 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <22495153.974.1329738307546.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndy9> References: <22495153.974.1329738307546.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndy9> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:37:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] ka'e/kakne & mapti/sarxe From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM, la .lindar. wrote: > I disagree with your interpretation. It's just nonsense. It obeys laws of > grammar, but it's semantically useless. You're always enlightening, lindar :) The point is that what is grammatically correct, may or may not make sense: it is a "speaker" responsibility to be as clear as possible and it is a "listener" responsibility to try to understand what the speaker says. I personally prefer to have an interpretation for {ko'a kakne lo nu ko'e broda} just saying that is a "non sense" doesn't seem to do any good to anyone. remod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.