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Il giorno , Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> I'd hear "mi kakne lo nu do citka" similar to a kid saying "I want to  
> candy".

Well, from a grammatical point of view, "candy" is not a verb and deriving  
a verb from it doesn't seems to easy (it's "I wat to eat a candy" or "I  
want to be sweet as a candy" or just "I want candies"?)

On the other hand, I know English is very flexible and you can make verbs  
from almost anything. When I first read the sentence "three awesomely slick  
junior partners Leared into YVR a day later", I had trouble recognizing  
that it meant that they arrived with a (private) Lear Jet, but then I  
thought it was a very good way to say it (and I like William Gibson,  
anyway).

I would prefer to have a semantic meaning for as many grammatically correct  
sentences as possible. I don't see who benefits from having a lot of ways  
to say "nonsense".

It would just require a small change to the gloss. From:

x1 is able to do/be/capable of doing/being x2 (event/state) under  
conditions x3 (event/state).

to:

x1 is able to do/be/cause/capable of doing/being/cause x2 (event/state)  
under conditions x3 (event/state).

remod

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Il giorno , Luke Bergen &lt;lukeabergen@gmail.com&gt; ha scritto:<br /><br =
/>&gt; I&#39;d hear &quot;mi kakne lo nu do citka&quot; similar to a kid sa=
ying &quot;I want to candy&quot;.<br /><br />Well, from a grammatical point=
 of view, &quot;candy&quot; is not a verb and deriving a verb from it doesn=
&#39;t seems to easy (it&#39;s &quot;I wat to eat a candy&quot; or &quot;I =
want to be sweet as a candy&quot; or just &quot;I want candies&quot;?)<br /=
><br />On the other hand, I know English is very flexible and you can make =
verbs from almost anything. When I first read the sentence &quot;three awes=
omely slick junior partners Leared into YVR a day later&quot;, I had troubl=
e recognizing that it meant that they arrived with a (private) Lear Jet, bu=
t then I thought it was a very good way to say it (and I like William Gibso=
n, anyway).<br /><br />I would prefer to have a semantic meaning for as man=
y grammatically correct sentences as possible. I don&#39;t see who benefits=
 from having a lot of ways to say &quot;nonsense&quot;.<br /><br />It would=
 just require a small change to the gloss. From:<br /><br />  x1 is able to=
 do/be/capable of doing/being x2 (event/state) under conditions x3 (event/s=
tate).<br /><br />to:<br /><br />  x1 is able to do/be/cause/capable of doi=
ng/being/cause x2 (event/state) under conditions x3 (event/state).<br /><br=
 />remod

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