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On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 04:52:46 Remo Dentato wrote:
> So {mi kakne lo nu do citka lo plise} (to me) means that I'm able to
> have you eating an apple. Either because I bought it for you, or
> because I shoved it down to your throat, or I threatened you that you
> won't go outside playing with your friends if you don't finish that
> damned apple.
>=20
> This seems (to me) the most logical interpretation to assign to {kakne}.
>=20
> If nobody things that my interpretation is acceptable, I will support
> the interpretation from xorxes.
>=20
> If nobody cares enough for one or the other, I suspect we'll leave it
> undetermined as it is now.

English, Spanish, and Italian all have infinitives and use them in this=20
construction, implying that the person who can is the same person who eats =
an=20
apple; but some languages have no infinitive or have quit using it. Modern=
=20
Greek regularly uses "=ED=E1" and a finite verb. So what does "=CC=F0=EF=F1=
=FE =ED=E1 =F6=DC=E3=E7=F2 =EC=DE=EB=EF"=20
mean?

Pierre
--=20
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

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