Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:35564) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rzrv5-0005I3-HQ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:31 -0800 Received: by fabs1 with SMTP id s1sf6608826fab.16 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ig8GYhW2tI053fSKoBso0EHzx7T1ptOWE5lQvqGtkxU=; b=1lfDkfxtFIVTMmfJaaaRfXbZHK/BTK8/thKgymrYeRmLgPFt7A7Eaybdzkk08Mdf7U WvpbTPE0JW654w9INI68wt/CYJS8MsC2FTPJLmtktQVuZKiOIUC41DhyESZnvRxErD2B sUfWE1igWpW/dx5zVW4/5Rx2+z7j/EGkOX6Aw= Received: by 10.204.153.10 with SMTP id i10mr2041149bkw.3.1329839173276; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.154.4 with SMTP id m4ls9219751bkw.1.gmail; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr1954147bkw.4.1329839172288; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr1954146bkw.4.1329839172275; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l17si28295907bkb.1.2012.02.21.07.46.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.45; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com with SMTP id i5so8436137lah.4 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 10.152.113.136 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.113.136; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.113.136]) by 10.152.113.136 with SMTP id iy8mr19014527lab.50.1329839172174 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.113.136 with SMTP id iy8mr15898750lab.50.1329839172135; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.110.105 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:46:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <22495153.974.1329738307546.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndy9> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:46:12 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] ka'e/kakne & mapti/sarxe From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > > So {mi kakne lo nu do citka lo plise} (to me) means that I'm able to > have you eating an apple. Either because I bought it for you, or > because I shoved it down to your throat, or I threatened you that you > won't go outside playing with your friends if you don't finish that > damned apple. So basically "mi kakne lo nu do citka lo plise [do'e mi]". > This seems (to me) the most logical interpretation to assign to {kakne}. > > If nobody things that my interpretation is acceptable, I will support > the interpretation from xorxes. I don't see our interpretations as being different. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.