Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:64099) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S0NIu-0005sL-9k; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:17:12 -0800 Received: by bkty15 with SMTP id y15sf583945bkt.16 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=byOFNHB0ZRQWX01T6/8v4cZ7F+pXUBUorTLaUHn3QCM=; b=sXhwguA3En+cQeikzn6x4UgLBVK8cMlrb6q9F2/Ps5kAE64039w0DZlhbwSxRcDFyx uHXN5t5BMr32LQlEu3h/SMiPdhfgVlWkY9oQBQRY1qnSbzrZi9uboYhURx242pxxuTrX dnWTdleh32ei/Yt3dCvi8BfJXiFxmfQc2LFtk= Received: by 10.205.123.13 with SMTP id gi13mr2484820bkc.8.1329959814257; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:54 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.155.76 with SMTP id r12ls1806723bkw.3.gmail; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.132.72 with SMTP id a8mr2530541bkt.5.1329959813438; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.132.72 with SMTP id a8mr2530540bkt.5.1329959813412; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si33816790bko.3.2012.02.22.17.16.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.45; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com with SMTP id i5so872418lah.4 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 10.152.45.134 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.45.134; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.45.134]) by 10.152.45.134 with SMTP id n6mr1972021lam.45.1329959813285 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.45.134 with SMTP id n6mr1670827lam.45.1329959813148; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.66.177 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:16:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <397D8CE1-716A-4964-8030-2A5BDD4F821C@cosmicray.co.uk> References: <5fa921d5-666c-4d10-b450-9bfd91bc02cb@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <1784223.8.1328126426516.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqfa18> <27563121.526.1328175544392.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqia35> <374337D1-48FD-4E29-816D-F7A72C151349@cosmicray.co.uk> <4F2A695E.5040805@gmx.de> <397D8CE1-716A-4964-8030-2A5BDD4F821C@cosmicray.co.uk> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:16:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Kids' Show To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5523bf63a6f0704b997662d X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec5523bf63a6f0704b997662d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I prefer stories that do not include coercion (e.g., war, police, government, corporations). Challenges against nature, personal rivalries, overcoming circumstances, intellectual accomplishments are better to me. stevo On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 AM, CosmicRay wrote: > No, no, no, the plot for the *Kids'* show is pretty much all sweetness and > light. Honest :-) > > The darker story arcs are intended for mature audiences only, and there > will be plenty of positivity to counterbalance and ultimately overcome dark > forces. > > We must always bear in mind that our "community" will be judged by things > like our works of fiction, so yes, love and tolerance ftw! > > kozmikreis > > -- > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 2 Feb 2012, at 10:45, selpa'i wrote: > > Rejection, war, taking over the world.. those things don't strike me as > very positive and certainly aren't things I'd want to be associated with. > Why is it that every story needs war in it? It's not as if positive topics > were boring, you know? > I always thought of the Lojban community as being very friendly and > welcoming, but all this just sounds very negative, not to mention you seem > to want this to be for children. I don't see why we should expose children > to war, fighting, rebellions, hatred, etc. Instead, why not focus on ... > Love and Tolerance? > > Am 02.02.2012 10:50, schrieb CosmicRay: > > More seriously, what would be done with criminally insane people, or evil > infiltrators hell bent on exposing the existence of the space station? > (R/)ejection may be the only solution. > > kozmikreis > > -- > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 2 Feb 2012, at 09:47, CosmicRay wrote: > > Maybe for speaking Esperanto, loudly, in a cinema. > > -- > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 Feb 2012, at 09:39, "la .lindar." wrote: > > Why would we reject people? -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/5_4deG--2DoJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > -- > .i su'o da ro roi me zo'e moi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --bcaec5523bf63a6f0704b997662d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I prefer stories that do not include coercion (e.g., war, police, governmen= t, corporations). Challenges against nature, personal rivalries, overcoming= circumstances, intellectual accomplishments are better to me.=A0

stevo

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6= :06 AM, CosmicRay <cr@cosmicray.co.uk> wrote:
No, no, no, the plot for the *Kids'* show= is pretty much all sweetness and light. =A0Honest :-)

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The darker story arcs are intended for mature audiences only, and ther= e will be plenty of positivity to counterbalance and ultimately overcome da= rk forces.

We must always bear in mind that our "community&qu= ot; will be judged by things like our works of fiction, so yes, love and to= lerance ftw!

kozmikreis

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On 2 Feb 2012, at 10:45, selpa= 9;i <seladwa@gmx.de<= /a>> wrote:

=20 =20 =20 =20 Rejection, war, taking over the world.. those things don't strike m= e as very positive and certainly aren't things I'd want to be associated with.
Why is it that every story needs war in it? It's not as if positive topics were boring, you know?
I always thought of the Lojban community as being very friendly and welcoming, but all this just sounds very negative, not to mention you seem to want this to be for children. I don't see why we should expose children to war, fighting, rebellions, hatred, etc. Instead, why not focus on ... Love and Tolerance?

Am 02.02.2012 10:50, schrieb CosmicRay:
More seriously, what would be done with criminally insane people, or evil infiltrators hell bent on exposing the existence of the space station? =A0(R/)ejection may be the only solution.

kozmikreis

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Sent from my iPhone


Maybe for speaking Esperanto, loudly, in a cinema.

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On 2 Feb 2012, at 09:39, "la .lindar." <lindarthebard@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

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