Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:38560) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S0Xnf-0001zE-TM; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:39 -0800 Received: by vcbfo11 with SMTP id fo11sf1119691vcb.16 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0yGyXLqhCJegPIaZM0CW29yPiRleQUdjcoImb/t5+NY=; b=R8Pmi/iL6Pj1/WjhMyaLuCLixKEgeClhXh+TU3q7hohObCFJ7LvqvYn3M8kbj2MX5A 8pT5zX6NV38zodPJPDLdwCVC/5CAatPSak/H5HaKj6JccEGecawn7KmHah/ZVo97ohfN CFv7IjyAyRytWS/E/Yuh5Zoehizj0XLMfdYQ8= Received: by 10.68.199.166 with SMTP id jl6mr240345pbc.17.1330000162777; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.1.137 with SMTP id 9ls807409pbm.3.gmail; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.213.68 with SMTP id nq4mr1114025pbc.2.1330000161538; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.213.68 with SMTP id nq4mr1114023pbc.2.1330000161515; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com (mail-pw0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6si1823207pbg.2.2012.02.23.04.29.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.47; Received: by pbbjt11 with SMTP id jt11so702232pbb.34 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 10.68.227.164 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.227.164; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.227.164]) by 10.68.227.164 with SMTP id sb4mr3345664pbc.134.1330000161483 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.227.164 with SMTP id sb4mr2839663pbc.134.1330000161319; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.32.194 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:29:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5fa921d5-666c-4d10-b450-9bfd91bc02cb@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <1784223.8.1328126426516.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqfa18> <27563121.526.1328175544392.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqia35> <374337D1-48FD-4E29-816D-F7A72C151349@cosmicray.co.uk> <4F2A695E.5040805@gmx.de> <397D8CE1-716A-4964-8030-2A5BDD4F821C@cosmicray.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:29:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Kids' Show From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e76922aaaa604b9a0cb64 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b2e76922aaaa604b9a0cb64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .ie On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > I prefer stories that do not include coercion (e.g., war, police, > government, corporations). Challenges against nature, personal rivalries, > overcoming circumstances, intellectual accomplishments are better to me. > > stevo > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 AM, CosmicRay wrote: > >> No, no, no, the plot for the *Kids'* show is pretty much all sweetness >> and light. Honest :-) >> >> The darker story arcs are intended for mature audiences only, and there >> will be plenty of positivity to counterbalance and ultimately overcome dark >> forces. >> >> We must always bear in mind that our "community" will be judged by things >> like our works of fiction, so yes, love and tolerance ftw! >> >> kozmikreis >> >> -- >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On 2 Feb 2012, at 10:45, selpa'i wrote: >> >> Rejection, war, taking over the world.. those things don't strike me as >> very positive and certainly aren't things I'd want to be associated with. >> Why is it that every story needs war in it? It's not as if positive >> topics were boring, you know? >> I always thought of the Lojban community as being very friendly and >> welcoming, but all this just sounds very negative, not to mention you seem >> to want this to be for children. I don't see why we should expose children >> to war, fighting, rebellions, hatred, etc. Instead, why not focus on ... >> Love and Tolerance? >> >> Am 02.02.2012 10:50, schrieb CosmicRay: >> >> More seriously, what would be done with criminally insane people, or evil >> infiltrators hell bent on exposing the existence of the space station? >> (R/)ejection may be the only solution. >> >> kozmikreis >> >> -- >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On 2 Feb 2012, at 09:47, CosmicRay wrote: >> >> Maybe for speaking Esperanto, loudly, in a cinema. >> >> -- >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2 Feb 2012, at 09:39, "la .lindar." wrote: >> >> Why would we reject people? -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/5_4deG--2DoJ. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> .i su'o da ro roi me zo'e moi >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Wed, Feb 22, = 2012 at 8:16 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
I prefer stories that do not include coercion (e.g., war, police, governmen= t, corporations). Challenges against nature, personal rivalries, overcoming= circumstances, intellectual accomplishments are better to me.=A0

stevo


O= n Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 AM, CosmicRay <cr@cosmicray.co.uk> wrote:
No, no, no, the plot for the *Kids'* show= is pretty much all sweetness and light. =A0Honest :-)

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The darker story arcs are intended for mature audiences only, and ther= e will be plenty of positivity to counterbalance and ultimately overcome da= rk forces.

We must always bear in mind that our "community&qu= ot; will be judged by things like our works of fiction, so yes, love and to= lerance ftw!

kozmikreis

--
Sent from my iPhone


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On 2 Feb 2012, at 10:45, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote= :

=20 =20 =20 =20 Rejection, war, taking over the world.. those things don't strike m= e as very positive and certainly aren't things I'd want to be associated with.
Why is it that every story needs war in it? It's not as if positive topics were boring, you know?
I always thought of the Lojban community as being very friendly and welcoming, but all this just sounds very negative, not to mention you seem to want this to be for children. I don't see why we should expose children to war, fighting, rebellions, hatred, etc. Instead, why not focus on ... Love and Tolerance?

Am 02.02.2012 10:50, schrieb CosmicRay:
More seriously, what would be done with criminally insane people, or evil infiltrators hell bent on exposing the existence of the space station? =A0(R/)ejection may be the only solution.

kozmikreis

--
Sent from my iPhone



On 2 Feb 2012, at 09:47, CosmicRay <cr@cosmicray.co.uk> wrote:

Maybe for speaking Esperanto, loudly, in a cinema.

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On 2 Feb 2012, at 09:39, "la .lindar." <lindarthebard@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

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