Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:42697) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S0vYP-0008Dh-H7; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:51:27 -0800 Received: by fabs1 with SMTP id s1sf2087023fab.16 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:51:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mcZKBDmr4g1ow8GfgdSilXqtppsS0h6N4L2dnh4zn9U=; b=oP5oRqUUQbMhqcRIKzFQWK/e8lBaoEEk+sporoSOwOujtuc25GwLs+yqqg7MQx0JiB C452zyEKA3wk2R9Hse4XszzSvbvwMPdAKorqwrGBs2EkuDoRCHj2cr+UgsAIuZoEqFEH r8ZZJVF8b3aXVCFU/uVsSIpwLQVtuUP/mlMSY= Received: by 10.216.138.130 with SMTP id a2mr112550wej.31.1330090972829; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:42:52 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.81.69 with SMTP id l47ls5029479wee.3.gmail; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.8.35 with SMTP id o3mr214351wia.4.1330090971475; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.8.35 with SMTP id o3mr214350wia.4.1330090971467; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f51.google.com (mail-ww0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y10si735182wiy.3.2012.02.24.05.42.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.51; Received: by mail-ww0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fm10so308973wgb.32 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 10.180.107.2 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.107.2; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.107.2]) by 10.180.107.2 with SMTP id gy2mr5259978wib.12.1330090971456 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:42:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.107.2 with SMTP id gy2mr4236061wib.12.1330090971382; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.143.197 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:42:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8249158.105.1330078848621.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjn6> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:42:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] An opinion against Lojban/Loglan From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / It is sad you didn't pay attention to his post, there are a few valid remarks. I especially retain this one : natlangs are based on "linguistic predicates", Lojban on "logical predicates". Linguistic predicates come in more naturally and allow more semantic flexibility. 2012/2/24, Remo Dentato : > I stopped reading at: > >> I don't consider either Loglan or Lojban viable auxlangs. > > Neither do I, so I can't see how this could support any furhter argument. > > Anyway, I quickly browsed the rest. > > If I understood correctly, the author would have created a spin-off of > Loglan in a different way and his way would have been much better than > Lojban. > > The problem is that he didn't. > > I'll be very interested in his effort, I hope he will let us know when > he has completed his equivlent of CLL so we can compare the two > languages. > > remod > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.