Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:39002) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S10si-0004AO-Qt; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:52 -0800 Received: by yhgg71 with SMTP id g71sf2439081yhg.16 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:mime-version:user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=0NiOSBnE6Yvg195q0BvQ2W6954zbAsuMo0eIvFFHLmo=; b=f3GhZrWEg5zP4pqCshwbymlSPRiCvP/gZZPjVouk9wtONADFOGyZhSwufQQGNMB3nm FmyDOmyKWdm/XGQTzqYWBEZIEGx7WjszRQnIFrKsVMM9D+ayM7Rmz2FqqW9OQGxIkU1G iL+980fyMHqsHhKUHGFFd1nQEMzXCmFUn5Q44= Received: by 10.68.135.169 with SMTP id pt9mr932567pbb.0.1330111951832; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:31 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.75.132 with SMTP id c4ls10560275pbw.1.gmail; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.231.165 with SMTP id th5mr666839pbc.1.1330111951212; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.231.165 with SMTP id th5mr666838pbc.1.1330111951201; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6si7284564pbg.2.2012.02.24.11.32.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S10sX-0004AL-BK for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:29 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S10sX-0004AE-1y for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:29 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:32:29 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Diplomacy as Lojban proficiency test. Message-ID: <20120224193228.GH30611@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / So we've started a Diplomacy game ( http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=80849 ). Diplomacy is a game with extremely simple rules, where winning the game is based more-or-less entirely on your ability to negotiate with the other players (and then betray them at the best time :D). I think this is a very good format for demonstrating proficiency, in a manner similar to my commentary earlier about "if you can figure out co-operative puzzles, you are competent". I imagine that whether or not you can win at diplomacy with turns of a given length says quite a bit about your proficiency with Lojban. Turns of, say, two minutes long would push your Lojban ability to the limit, I imagine. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.