Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:42561) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S1IT7-0000X2-77; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:32 -0800 Received: by eaaj10 with SMTP id j10sf2975678eaa.16 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vup++k3RpAMdLz/O4gyViretxgZkfn6BjFbA8FITBdw=; b=0XZyO2UxjbvQDgck/5JetLNE3NraomkCKMls307tuNdLKy1OnFGwGZgZAEFtIdP5Yt N5p+Z9e//jNSYo9Ec8WwXN1MEryhNwuPFJGn8gniPzxw+nw4//2rU5SQlzr9QTetGGN/ zbQ4vigX/GeHYyO8WaCraqcEDfBK6QkwUkaMQ= Received: by 10.205.114.13 with SMTP id ey13mr477470bkc.32.1330179555316; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:15 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.205.113.145 with SMTP id ew17ls5542777bkc.8.gmail; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr505148bkw.4.1330179554720; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr505146bkw.4.1330179554650; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ba12si9731787bkb.2.2012.02.25.06.19.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.54; Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so4807678lag.41 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 10.152.109.193 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.109.193; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.109.193]) by 10.152.109.193 with SMTP id hu1mr5303794lab.38.1330179554309 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.109.193 with SMTP id hu1mr4414793lab.38.1330179554137; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:19:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.66.177 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:18:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0e76c6b6-7445-41be-88e2-0ca5df75ce20@w4g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <221c4df2-7a58-4a80-8814-4204e547045f@s7g2000vby.googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:18:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: about translations into lojban To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee4a0cfd6bb04b9ca8f19 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec54ee4a0cfd6bb04b9ca8f19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Feedback comes from a finished work. Getting it a paragraph at a time (except for grammatical points, maybe, but if so, then your grammar isn't good enough for the translation) just isn't reasonable. stevo (JMO) On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd w= rote: > I would also like to read Winnie-the-pooh in lojban. > I think the problem isn't lack of interest, but that most people has too > much to do in their lives. > So why don't you just continue to translate, and then you'll probably get > response sooner or later (probably later)? > But I understand that it's a kind of frustrating. > mu'omi'e seb > > > 2012/2/24 ianek > >> Well, translating something that people assert they want to read is >> not enough... Some time ago I started translating "Winnie-the-Pooh" >> and it looked like some people are interested, but I wasn't getting >> enough feedback and I gave up. >> >> mu'o mi'e ianek >> >> On 22 Lut, 22:06, jongausib wrote: >> > coi zoi tag. buroq_matwell tag. e. rodo >> > well, if you would like to translate something, then nobody will stop >> > you from doing it, but is anyone going to read it afterwards? >> > >> > So I think it's better really to translate works which the community >> > actually would like to read. >> > >> > When I'm better at lojban I would like to translate works from swedish >> > since I regard myself as pretty skilled in my mother-tongue. >> > But first I would like to ask the community what they would like to >> > read: >> > Astrid Lindgren (international known children-book author), August >> > Strindberg (the most famous swedish classic?), Vilhelm Moberg (my >> > favourite swedish classic; about a swedish farmer family who emigrate >> > to America around 1850) or Stieg Larson's Millenium trilogy (the most >> > bestselling swedish book ever). >> > >> > I do not want to read religious propaganda, and if you're going to >> > translate religious works, so please translate works from as many >> > religions as possible from their original languages. >> > >> > What I do would like to read in lojban is for example: Lord of the >> > rings, Das Glasperlenspiel (Herman Hesse), the Alchemist, >> > Dostoyevskij, Sartre, Einstein, Bourdieu, Llosa, Shakespare, Dante, >> > Golding, Goethe and much more. >> > >> > first meant as an answer to: >> > >> > 2012/2/22 buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk >> > >> > coi >> > >> > I propose to translate these religious stories, and perhaps >> > converted >> > to video, in fact, it may also bring to the Divine - satisfaction >> > and >> > care - to lojban >> > >> > see in this two pages >> > >> > under the topic _BOOK TWO LESSON PLANS- there is stories in the >> > book >> > after downloading >> > >> > http://www.spiritual-education.org/book2.html >> > >> > and this page for book3, under the topic -BOOK THREE LESSON PLANS- >> > there is stories after downloading also >> > >> > http://www.spiritual-education.org/book3.html >> > >> > co'o >> > >> > ki'esdi'es >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "lojban" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban >> > +unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group athttp:// >> groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --bcaec54ee4a0cfd6bb04b9ca8f19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Feedback comes from a finished work. Getting it a paragraph at a time (exce= pt for grammatical points, maybe, but if so, then your grammar isn't go= od enough for the translation) just isn't reasonable.=A0

stevo (JMO)

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at = 9:13 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
I would also like to read Winnie-the-pooh in lojban.
I think the problem= isn't lack of interest, but that most people has too much to do in the= ir lives.
So why don't you just continue to translate, and then you&= #39;ll probably get response sooner or later (probably later)?
But I understand that it's a kind of frustrating.
mu'omi'e s= eb


2012/2/24 ianek <janek37@gmail.com>
Well, translating something that people assert they want to read is
not enough... Some time ago I started translating "Winnie-the-Pooh&quo= t;
and it looked like some people are interested, but I wasn't getting
enough feedback and I gave up.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 22 Lut, 22:06, jongausib <so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote:
> coi zoi tag. buroq_matwell tag. e. rodo
> well, if you would like to translate something, then nobody will stop<= br> > you from doing it, but is anyone going to read it afterwards?
>
> So I think it's better really to translate works which the communi= ty
> actually would like to read.
>
> When I'm better at lojban I would like to translate works from swe= dish
> since I regard myself as pretty skilled in my mother-tongue.
> But first I would like to ask the community what they would like to > read:
> Astrid Lindgren (international known children-book author), August
> Strindberg (the most famous swedish classic?), Vilhelm Moberg (my
> favourite swedish classic; about a swedish farmer family who emigrate<= br> > to America around 1850) or Stieg Larson's Millenium trilogy (the m= ost
> bestselling swedish book ever).
>
> I do not want to read religious propaganda, and if you're going to=
> translate religious works, so please translate works from as many
> religions as possible from their original languages.
>
> What I do would like to read in lojban is for example: Lord of the
> rings, Das Glasperlenspiel (Herman Hesse), the Alchemist,
> Dostoyevskij, Sartre, Einstein, Bourdieu, Llosa, Shakespare, Dante, > Golding, Goethe and much more.
>
> first meant as an answer to:
>
> 2012/2/22 buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk <buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk>
>
> =A0 =A0 coi
>
> =A0 =A0 I propose to translate these religious stories, and perhaps > converted
> =A0 =A0 to video, in fact, it may also bring to the Divine - satisfact= ion
> and
> =A0 =A0 care - to lojban
>
> =A0 =A0 see in this two pages
>
> =A0 =A0 under the topic _BOOK TWO LESSON PLANS- there is stories in th= e
> book
> =A0 =A0 after downloading
>
> =A0 =A0http://www.spiritual-education.org/book2.html
>
> =A0 =A0 and this page for book3, under the topic -BOOK THREE LESSON PL= ANS-
> =A0 =A0 there is stories after downloading also
>
> =A0 =A0http://www.spiritual-education.org/book3.html
>
> =A0 =A0 co'o
>
> =A0 =A0 ki'esdi'es
>
> =A0 =A0 --
> =A0 =A0 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go= ogle
> Groups "lojban" group.
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> =A0 =A0 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban
> +uns= ubscribe@googlegroups.com.
> =A0 =A0 For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.goog= le.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den.

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