Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:43189) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S1jTF-00044S-2O; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:25 -0800 Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6sf5159040wib.16 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6igfcRAHqtrSDUCt+mgQ10dHDQjqh03hSdHdalICabE=; b=2vRrRQbYFSZcwWMD8jVKwyX0F3kBgmz/rZmz7occ89LRxhtqNCWZ4CJZlHd97EA1BC TzMSfIz/mxfiyUG5W5ii1Lv3eQ2Gev1uAnK5EkiFgndGzyYJiLGpMilImFfLGFV7IQVA qbgbl0Fws2cNaCkrET2xAnN9gEQgWlgvIa1Wc= Received: by 10.216.93.195 with SMTP id l45mr268229wef.29.1330283349784; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.78.200 with SMTP id d8ls4450657wix.2.gmail; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.52.80 with SMTP id d58mr328969wec.3.1330283348203; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.52.80 with SMTP id d58mr328968wec.3.1330283348186; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-f175.google.com (mail-we0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ek10si3623090wid.0.2012.02.26.11.09.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.175; Received: by wera1 with SMTP id a1so320878wer.34 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 10.180.107.2 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.107.2; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.107.2]) by 10.180.107.2 with SMTP id gy2mr21692242wib.12.1330283348141 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.107.2 with SMTP id gy2mr17343928wib.12.1330283347955; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.144.212 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:09:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <636e9263-ebae-41ed-a867-095e825246ff@1g2000yqv.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:09:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Stories are very interest -religious pluralism- From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / . Hello ! Since you're engaged in the process of translating religious books into Lojban, let me add that you'll certainly be lacking some terminology, for, indeed, such theological notions such as "tawhid" or "jihad" or "dhikr" or anything you like, are *not* logically determined, but culturally determined, and, as such, need terms for their own sake. Perhaps, you'll have to coin such words as la tau'id., la dji'ad., la dikr.= ? And to exit the theological issue, the same is true for any "culturally determined notion", not only for islamic ones... . 2012/2/26, buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk : > coi > > ki'e i do cu claxu vau > > co'o > > la ki'esdi'es vau > > On 22 =DD=C8=D1=C7=ED=D1, 17:10, MorphemeAddict wrote= : >> Great! >> Translate anything you want. A text with special significance to you mig= ht >> be best, as this might help you maintain interest and motivation. >> >> stevo >> >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:54 AM, buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk < >> >> >> >> buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> > coi >> >> > I propose to translate these religious stories, and perhaps converted >> > to video, in fact, it may also bring to the Divine - satisfaction and >> > care - to lojban >> >> > see in this two pages >> >> > under the topic _BOOK TWO LESSON PLANS- there is stories in the book >> > after downloading >> >> >http://www.spiritual-education.org/book2.html >> >> > and this page for book3, under the topic -BOOK THREE LESSON PLANS- >> > there is stories after downloading also >> >> >http://www.spiritual-education.org/book3.html >> >> > co'o >> >> > ki'esdi'es >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "lojban" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den.- =C5=CE=DD=C7=C1 =C7=E1= =E4=D5 =C7=E1=E3=DE=CA=C8=D3 - >> >> - =DA=D1=D6 =C7=E1=E4=D5 =C7=E1=E3=DE=CA=C8=D3 - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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