Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:40655) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S3uet-0008OQ-O8; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:28 -0800 Received: by wibhq12 with SMTP id hq12sf3477925wib.16 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban+bncCMGclZyxExDF4sn6BBoEp0jjcg@googlegroups.com designates 10.216.139.201 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.216.139.201; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban+bncCMGclZyxExDF4sn6BBoEp0jjcg@googlegroups.com designates 10.216.139.201 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban+bncCMGclZyxExDF4sn6BBoEp0jjcg@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban+bncCMGclZyxExDF4sn6BBoEp0jjcg@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.216.139.201]) by 10.216.139.201 with SMTP id c51mr1810836wej.33.1330803016074 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6YVvyFEojiMyzHYiRXgiYXf5AiVdKf1a3ImcqrjnWuQ=; b=aWs5Dvm4LhVYUR1Nprw0T4dYgUJBYDX3pmnYCM/5o7WR8J4HjCKK1zf4ClpxThvq0Y THSdv11UPG9eLAH70tz9Mk9EqyjiHLwd81j9VRZ7hfPoQ6yx2pWcCgkYpMmYE0ZSsZHw mX+2oDlCZi0P0OV2tb7vuE+dhSRvHUGnNtCMI= Received: by 10.216.139.201 with SMTP id c51mr513785wej.33.1330803013296; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.203.17 with SMTP id e17ls7000413weo.9.gmail; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.87.165 with SMTP id az5mr242315wib.4.1330803011335; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.87.165 with SMTP id az5mr242314wib.4.1330803011326; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com (mail-ww0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y10si1951534wiy.3.2012.03.03.11.30.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.47; Received: by wgbdt13 with SMTP id dt13so2271604wgb.4 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 10.180.86.9 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.86.9; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.86.9]) by 10.180.86.9 with SMTP id l9mr5418267wiz.15.1330803011298 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.86.9 with SMTP id l9mr4288780wiz.15.1330803011172; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.144.212 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <30903050.276.1330692193136.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynca15> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 20:30:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Using Lojban in 'very' defined contexts (eg. maths) From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / I heard something similar about calculation abilities of young Japanese children : as they use the pattern 4 100 3 10 2 to say "432", they are good in maths and more able than english children who must think and compute "thirty" instead of "three tens". Also, one say I passed IQ tests or something like that and there was a test where numbers of three and four digits appeared on a screen like flash and one had to tell if two consecutive numbers were the same or different. And I had good results because I coded internally (in my mind) "1234" as "one-two-three-four", and not as "one thousand two hundreds thirty-four". So, for this kind of task, i.e. identifying a sequence, a strictly digital approach is good. But to compute quantities and have a good insight of their meaning, "one thousand two hundreds and so on" is the right approach... [Besides, it was also proved that people whose language has monosyllabic words for the digits were better at this kind of test, for prosodic and mnemonic obvious reasons] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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