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Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Let's do something like this for Lojban!
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On Sunday, March 4, 2012, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > I disagree. ko'a - vo'u are Lojban's he, she, and it. Unlike most
languages,
>> > we get 8 of them, and they're all gender neutral. ko'a-vo'u aren't
pointing
>> > words, they refer to a specific entity, which may be explicitly made
using
>> > goi, or implicitly assigned from context.
>>
>> I disagree here. While I'm a great support of "meaning by context", on
>> his own {ko'a} has no meaning and can't be used the same way the third
>> person is used in English and other languages.
>
> You give no reasons for why you think that, so I have nothing to say on
this other than that I don't share your belief.

The reason is CLL 7.5 (or at least the way I read it). I thought it was not
contentious that the KOhA series had not "obvious value"

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<br><br>On Sunday, March 4, 2012, Jonathan Jones &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeo=
nus@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>&gt;&gt; &gt; I disa=
gree. ko&#39;a - vo&#39;u are Lojban&#39;s he, she, and it. Unlike most lan=
guages,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; we get 8 of them, and they&#39;re all gender neutral. ko&#39;=
a-vo&#39;u aren&#39;t pointing<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; words, they refer to a spec=
ific entity, which may be explicitly made using<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; goi, or im=
plicitly assigned from context.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I disagree here. While I&#39;m a great support of &quo=
t;meaning by context&quot;, on<br>&gt;&gt; his own {ko&#39;a} has no meanin=
g and can&#39;t be used the same way the third<br>&gt;&gt; person is used i=
n English and other languages.<br>
&gt;<br>&gt; You give no reasons for why you think that, so I have nothing =
to say on this other than that I don&#39;t share your belief.<br><br>The re=
ason is CLL 7.5 (or at least the way I read it). I thought it was not conte=
ntious that the KOhA series had not &quot;obvious value&quot;<br>

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