Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:56404) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S4EIm-0000Qb-Q4; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 08:28:57 -0800 Received: by fabs1 with SMTP id s1sf3352768fab.16 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 08:28:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban+bncCMrD9Z2PDRC6sM76BBoENcMrkg@googlegroups.com designates 10.180.109.195 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.109.195; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban+bncCMrD9Z2PDRC6sM76BBoENcMrkg@googlegroups.com designates 10.180.109.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban+bncCMrD9Z2PDRC6sM76BBoENcMrkg@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban+bncCMrD9Z2PDRC6sM76BBoENcMrkg@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.109.195]) by 10.180.109.195 with SMTP id hu3mr4111535wib.3.1330878525194 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 04 Mar 2012 08:28:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cVRX2TjvuGJ4A4gePTBLyQlcJPJ4ZXHx20CMxc4LcXA=; b=T1CX86CbX+uymqXeGZON9PujZdW9oM8z+Y2BhOhCLqgJlshb7xtX2L8ZSUEQJtD7WI G04bUoMkHawY7MfN+bze4LM4HZFUdTaX/Pt/erIQc8MO8Ejgi/wdxg15OYPfIJ0nrOOc 6L4PRO5z/WBWY7hkT9kkKb61rWQpj7234bLx0= Received: by 10.180.109.195 with SMTP id hu3mr1220132wib.3.1330878522611; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 08:28:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.104.5 with SMTP id ga5ls2702455wib.0.canary; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 08:28:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.83.170 with SMTP id r10mr56045wiy.1.1330878521484; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 08:28:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.69.74 with SMTP id m52mswed; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 07:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.150.90 with SMTP id x26mr1111366bkv.6.1330787026968; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.150.90 with SMTP id x26mr1111365bkv.6.1330787026952; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si10407230bko.3.2012.03.03.07.03.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of idontknw.wang@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.54; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com with SMTP id v3so3928819lag.41 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of idontknw.wang@gmail.com designates 10.152.112.132 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.112.132; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.112.132]) by 10.152.112.132 with SMTP id iq4mr12314964lab.28.1330787026834 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:03:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.132 with SMTP id iq4mr10159397lab.28.1330787026726; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.83.74 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 07:03:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <30903050.276.1330692193136.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynca15> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 23:03:46 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Using Lojban in 'very' defined contexts (eg. maths) From: Wang Xuerui To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: idontknw.wang@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of idontknw.wang@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=idontknw.wang@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / 2012/3/3 Sebastian Fr=F6jd : > I've been trying to find the reference of what I've been reading, but I > haven't found it yet. From what I remember, it was something about chines= e > count like eight-nine-ten-tenone-tentwo etc, instead of the illogical > eleven-twelve etc. So that could be the cause why chinese children grasp = the > base-10 position system earlier. Unfortunately I have no reference to thi= s > research at the moment. But maybe this could be a start?: > Chinese numeral expressions are mostly regular... in the "ten-one, ten-two" situation the leading "one"s are omitted, and for large numbers it is sometimes acceptable to just say the individual digits; i remember having said something like "the file size is five four three two eight zero six bytes" for my classmate to verify the transferred data. And ordinals are formed by simply prefixing cardinals. Maybe the irregularities lie in alternative counting symbols like the ancient Heavenly Stems and Earthly Branches... actually not many Chinese people can enumerate all of the characters, let alone writing down them :P --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.