Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:47809) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S4Krn-0003Jf-6O; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:29 -0800 Received: by eaan10 with SMTP id n10sf3489241eaa.16 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDM9c_6BBoEXJqgHw@googlegroups.com designates 10.204.151.69 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.151.69; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDM9c_6BBoEXJqgHw@googlegroups.com designates 10.204.151.69 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDM9c_6BBoEXJqgHw@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDM9c_6BBoEXJqgHw@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.151.69]) by 10.204.151.69 with SMTP id b5mr4980188bkw.18.1330903759630 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2ny5C8IbT5VQT8XuOtZixTBRFvDx3wtDqbXiCCsfnOk=; b=Lsak3HI/c16AOduhgvVSWhZiL528pCPZRyu93aLRD2QixYb/0HIdv0+/uSWvSTjsy5 WJJ3E/jo8TtWJU4QzmEsIdnOAnI1S+w78HYrRE5uvDV+KycvWrdiQ09X3TL+eTHpVEnl Jky/boExIgNZdl1qGRuWMS9SHqU99/rCQReCw= Received: by 10.204.151.69 with SMTP id b5mr1467084bkw.18.1330903756908; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:16 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.45.87 with SMTP id d23ls5887441bkf.2.gmail; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr1383445bkw.4.1330903756230; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr1383444bkw.4.1330903756189; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f48.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ba12si15652032bkb.2.2012.03.04.15.29.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.48; Received: by lagu2 with SMTP id u2so5995743lag.21 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 10.152.112.100 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.112.100; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.112.100]) by 10.152.112.100 with SMTP id ip4mr16606194lab.1.1330903755873 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.100 with SMTP id ip4mr13647825lab.1.1330903755742; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Mar 2012 15:29:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <23356818.181.1330873439218.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbze11> <31364838.1990.1330886569137.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vblb5> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 16:29:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojbanic equivalent for Italian ciao From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040838fd975e1d04ba732d29 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d040838fd975e1d04ba732d29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .io.i'e.o'ero'iga'icu'i Lojban doesn't seem to have a politeness UI, so I'm co-opting .o'e [closeness - distance] in combination with ro'i [emotional]: .o'ero'i - emotional closeness - friends - informal .o'ecu'iro'i - emotionally neutral - strangers - polite .o'enairo'i - emotional distance - superiors - formal On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:43 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > Okay, I meant, what combination of attitudinal cmavo are the equivalent of > a fist bump? > > stevo > > On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > >> sa'ei .bymp. ? >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: >> >>> And what's the spoken equivalent of the fist bump? >>> >>> stevo >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:42 PM, vruxir wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps a simple ".io", optionally accompanied by a fist bump? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, March 4, 2012 10:03:59 AM UTC-5, gleki wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Italians say *ciao *both when they greet each other and when they >>>>> wanna say goodbye. >>>>> >>>>> So is there any word that has two meanings, >>>>> either {coi} or {co'o} depending on context ? >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/fA2H_la8Ok8J. >>>> >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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Lojban doesn't seem = to have a politeness UI, so I'm co-opting .o'e [closeness - distanc= e] in combination with ro'i [emotional]:

.o'ero'i - emot= ional closeness - friends - informal
.o'ecu'iro'i - emotionally neutral - strangers - polite
.o&#= 39;enairo'i - emotional distance - superiors - formal

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:43 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>= wrote:
Okay, I meant, what combination of attitudin= al cmavo are the equivalent of a fist bump?=A0

stevo
=

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Luke Be= rgen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
sa'ei .bymp. =A0?


On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytl= esw@gmail.com> wrote:
And what's the spoken equivalent of the fist bump?=A0

stevo


On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at = 1:42 PM, vruxir <kextrii@gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps a simple ".io", optionally= accompanied by a fist bump?


On Sunday, March 4, 2012 10:03:59 = AM UTC-5, gleki wrote:
The Italians say ciao both when they greet each other and when they = wanna say goodbye.

So is there any word that has two mea= nings,=A0
either {coi} or {co'o} depending on context ?

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