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Isn't social, {ro'a}, more appropriate? io o'ero'a ga'icu'i -> generic greeting On 4 March 2012 18:29, Jonathan Jones wrote: > .io.i'e.o'ero'iga'icu'i > > Lojban doesn't seem to have a politeness UI, so I'm co-opting .o'e > [closeness - distance] in combination with ro'i [emotional]: > > .o'ero'i - emotional closeness - friends - informal > .o'ecu'iro'i - emotionally neutral - strangers - polite > .o'enairo'i - emotional distance - superiors - formal > > > On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:43 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > >> Okay, I meant, what combination of attitudinal cmavo are the equivalent >> of a fist bump? >> >> stevo >> >> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >> >>> sa'ei .bymp. ? >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: >>> >>>> And what's the spoken equivalent of the fist bump? >>>> >>>> stevo >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:42 PM, vruxir wrote: >>>> >>>>> Perhaps a simple ".io", optionally accompanied by a fist bump? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, March 4, 2012 10:03:59 AM UTC-5, gleki wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The Italians say *ciao *both when they greet each other and when >>>>>> they wanna say goodbye. >>>>>> >>>>>> So is there any word that has two meanings, >>>>>> either {coi} or {co'o} depending on context ? >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/fA2H_la8Ok8J. >>>>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --bcaec501624150eb4704ba788646 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why emotional? Isn't social, {ro'a}, more appropriate?

io o'ero'a ga'icu'i -> generic greeting

On 4 March 2012 18:29, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
.io.i'e.o'ero'iga'icu'i<= br>
Lojban doesn't seem to have a politeness UI, so I'm co-optin= g .o'e [closeness - distance] in combination with ro'i [emotional]:=

.o'ero'i - emotional closeness - friends - informal
.o'ecu'iro'i - emotionally neutral - strangers - polite
.o&#= 39;enairo'i - emotional distance - superiors - formal


On Sun, Mar 4, 201= 2 at 3:43 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, I meant, what combination of attitudin= al cmavo are the equivalent of a fist bump?=A0

stevo
=

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Luke Be= rgen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
sa'ei .bymp. =A0?


On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytl= esw@gmail.com> wrote:
And what's the spoken equivalent of the fist bump?=A0

stevo


On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at = 1:42 PM, vruxir <kextrii@gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps a simple ".io", optionally= accompanied by a fist bump?


On Sunday, March 4, 2012 10:03:59 = AM UTC-5, gleki wrote:
The Italians say ciao both when they greet each other and when they = wanna say goodbye.

So is there any word that has two mea= nings,=A0
either {coi} or {co'o} depending on context ?

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