On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.n= u> wrote:

On Sunday, March 04, 2012 23:48:44 Jonathan Jones wrote:<= br> > Why is bunspe defined as sister-in-law and me'ispe is brother-in-l= aw?
> That's completely backwards.
>
> Specifically, brother-in-law (me'ispe) is defined as "x1 is t= he spouse of
> the sister of x2 under law/custom/etc. x3"
> and sister-in-law (bunspe) is defined as "x1 is the spouse of the= brother
> of x2 under law/custom/etc. x3"
>
> What if the spouse of the sister is a woman? Or the spouse of the brot= her a
> man? What about the sister or brother of the spouse?

If the spouse of the sister is a woman, she is sister-in-law and me&#= 39;ispe.
Conversely if the spouse of the brother is a man. The sibling of the spouse= cu
spebruna ja spemensi. Whoever wrote the def wasn't thinking that two wo= men
could be married to each other.

The problem is tha= t it is the gender of the married person that is taken into account, not th= e gender of the person being spoken of. Whether I am a brother-in-law or a = sister-in-law has nothing to do with the gender of my married sibling.

Also, why does it matter which of the two is the married one? If Man1 m= arries Woman1 who has a brother Man2, Man2 is Man1's brother-in-law, an= d Man1 is Man2's brother-in-law. If Man1 also has a biological or adopt= ed brother Man3, then Man2 and Man3 are also each other's brothers-in-l= aw, even if neither of them are married.

If any sibling from family A marries any sibling from family B, then ev= ery sibling in family A is a sibling-in-law to every sibling in family B, e= xcept for the two who are married, as they are spouses, not siblings-in-law= .

> By the current definitions, a woman who is married t= o a woman with a sister
> is a brother-in-law, and a woman married to someone with a sister has = no
> lujvo. It also doesn't work for the relationship between a sibling= of one
> spouse and a sibling of the other spouse.

A brother of one spouse cu me'irspebu'a a brother of the othe= r spouse.

Pierre
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