Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:57588) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S4e8m-0007QU-4C; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:04:20 -0800 Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25sf4210441iah.16 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxC1uNT6BBoEWSTd0w@googlegroups.com designates 10.52.72.68 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.52.72.68; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxC1uNT6BBoEWSTd0w@googlegroups.com designates 10.52.72.68 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxC1uNT6BBoEWSTd0w@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxC1uNT6BBoEWSTd0w@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.52.72.68]) by 10.52.72.68 with SMTP id b4mr12233480vdv.8.1330977849777 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:04:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dp6CYPvr0wTmUzoB9SXzCaIVVfPtcjdSjfFB2JxrG+U=; b=xzbkIOACQuzhsyZYk2TEenQs+eOVyeJ54/VBVG1WhBq3yQC249im7QKu1/zFX72Cyc obHGLk3439pXjJkrGwGZzbo4q/+XSBICXyDrBucdCWm/qNVZAdn859EphgDPT1Phzd0f pVaj+xVKy5af2W5SswLd+3aY9ZDNnn+OzrQvI= Received: by 10.52.72.68 with SMTP id b4mr3560022vdv.8.1330977845979; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:04:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.175.104 with SMTP id bz8ls6103102vdc.1.gmail; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.165.99 with SMTP id d63mr9404465yhl.7.1330977844690; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.165.99 with SMTP id d63mr9404463yhl.7.1330977844678; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d20si9282743yhj.1.2012.03.05.12.04.04; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from darner.ixazon.lan (darner.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.5]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FEAA1E154 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:04:04 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Using Lojban in 'very' defined contexts (eg. maths) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:03:55 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (DragonFly/3.1-DEVELOPMENT; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <30903050.276.1330692193136.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynca15> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201203051503.56049.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Monday, March 05, 2012 07:14:17 Sid wrote: > doi la'oi Fr=F6jd >=20 > English uses eleven and twelve because it's base-12, not base-10. Proto-Germanic may have had alternating bases 12 and 10, but all modern=20 Germanic languages are strictly decimal, and "eleven" and "twelve" are just= =20 leftovers of PGmc usage. Some Italo-Western Romance languages switch between sixteen and seventeen,= =20 others between fifteen and sixteen. Neither is what Latin did; Latin counte= d up=20 to septendecim, then backward to viginti. Sometimes, for fun, I count in=20 Spanish as one did in Latin: once, doce, trece, catorce, quince, sece,=20 setence, dosdeveinte, undeveinte, veinte. Pierre --=20 The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.