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This is the relevant entry: "But like the cmavo of UI, the members of
selma'o COI can be =93negated=94 with =93nai=94 to get the opposite part of=
 the
scale." Thanks for the link.

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

> The CLL says that COI can be suffixed with NAI... I don't see there being
> any problem with that either. [ju'inai] is defined as meaning "ignore me"=
,
> as per vlasisku. And, more to the point, [coinai] is defined as "goodbye"=
.
> The "address refusal meaning" is carried more specifically by [doinai].
> [mi'enai] like Pierre said, is "I'm not X" which is pretty useful.
>
> Huh, in fact, a whole section of the CLL is dedicated to vocative scales.
> http://dag.github.com/cll/13/14/
>
> mi'enai na'e bo la tsani mu'o
>
>
> On 5 March 2012 21:12, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, March 05, 2012 20:43:44 Jonathan Jones wrote:
>> > Also, where do you get that coinai means goodbye? co'o means goodbye.
>> I'm
>> > not aware it saying anywhere that cmavo of COI can be modified by NAI.
>> > Could you link the relevant passage?
>>
>> According to my recollection of a discussion long ago, "coinai" means th=
at
>> you're refusing to greet someone. I'm not sure how that would be used
>> without
>> contriving, but both "mi'enai" and "co'onai" have clear uses. If someone
>> yelled at you "ju'i blub!", you could answer "mi'enai blub", and if
>> someone
>> said "co'o" when you're not ready to go or for him to go, you can answer
>> "co'onai".
>>
>> Pierre
>> --
>> La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre.
>> Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.
>>
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This is the relevant entry: &quot;But like the cmavo of UI, the members of =
selma&#39;o COI can be =93negated=94 with =93nai=94 to get the opposite par=
t of the scale.&quot; Thanks for the link.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Jacob Errington <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The CLL says that COI can be suffixed with N=
AI... I don&#39;t see there being any problem with that either. [ju&#39;ina=
i] is defined as meaning &quot;ignore me&quot;, as per vlasisku. And, more =
to the point, [coinai] is defined as &quot;goodbye&quot;. The &quot;address=
 refusal meaning&quot; is carried more specifically by [doinai]. [mi&#39;en=
ai] like Pierre said, is &quot;I&#39;m not X&quot; which is pretty useful.<=
div>


<br></div><div>Huh, in fact, a whole section of the CLL is dedicated to voc=
ative scales.</div><div><a href=3D"http://dag.github.com/cll/13/14/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://dag.github.com/cll/13/14/</a>=A0</div><div><br></div><di=
v>
mi&#39;enai na&#39;e bo la tsani mu&#39;o<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">=
<br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 5 March 2012 21:12, Pierre Abbat <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu" target=3D"_blank">phma@=
phma.optus.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div>On Monday, March 05, 2012 20:43:44 Jonathan Jones wrote:<br>
&gt; Also, where do you get that coinai means goodbye? co&#39;o means goodb=
ye. I&#39;m<br>
&gt; not aware it saying anywhere that cmavo of COI can be modified by NAI.=
<br>
&gt; Could you link the relevant passage?<br>
<br>
</div>According to my recollection of a discussion long ago, &quot;coinai&q=
uot; means that<br>
you&#39;re refusing to greet someone. I&#39;m not sure how that would be us=
ed without<br>
contriving, but both &quot;mi&#39;enai&quot; and &quot;co&#39;onai&quot; ha=
ve clear uses. If someone<br>
yelled at you &quot;ju&#39;i blub!&quot;, you could answer &quot;mi&#39;ena=
i blub&quot;, and if someone<br>
said &quot;co&#39;o&quot; when you&#39;re not ready to go or for him to go,=
 you can answer<br>
&quot;co&#39;onai&quot;.<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Pierre<br>
--<br>
La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre.<br>
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.<br>
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