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 Content preview:  On 7 March 2012 16:57, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
   wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis > <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>
    wrote: >> >> >> zmadu3 is a dimension, so it should be {lo ka ce'u nanca
   makau kei}. >> >> Since this is the last utterance, and it appears to be decipherable,
    >> >> you might want to play with the reader and leave it like that. A more
    >> >> friendly alternative is to use a tanru like {nanca zmadu}, as in 56.
    >> > >> > >> > z3 is not a dimension. It is a property or quantity. lo se
    nanca is a >> > quantity. >> > >> >> z4 is a quantity and a {se nanca}. z3
    is a quantity that is a function of >> something. Otherwise, what could be
    an answer to the following questions? >> {la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. li xo}
    >> {la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. lo se nanca be ma} >> > > > Seriously, stop
    arguing things without making sure you're right first. > > zmadu: x1 exceeds/is
    more than x2 in property/quantity x3 (ka/ni) by > amount/excess x4. > > z4
    is amount by which x1 is more than x2, z3 is the property/quantity in > which
    x1 is more. > [...] 
 
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On 7 March 2012 16:57, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis
> <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> zmadu3 is a dimension, so it should be {lo ka ce'u nanca makau kei}.
>> >> Since this is the last utterance, and it appears to be decipherable,
>> >> you might want to play with the reader and leave it like that. A more
>> >> friendly alternative is to use a tanru like {nanca zmadu}, as in 56.
>> >
>> >
>> > z3 is not a dimension. It is a property or quantity. lo se nanca is a
>> > quantity.
>> >
>>
>> z4 is a quantity and a {se nanca}. z3 is a quantity that is a function o=
f
>> something. Otherwise, what could be an answer to the following questions=
?
>> =A0{la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. li xo}
>> =A0{la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. lo se nanca be ma}
>>
>
>
> Seriously, stop arguing things without making sure you're right first.
>
> zmadu: x1 exceeds/is more than x2 in property/quantity x3 (ka/ni) by
> amount/excess x4.
>
> z4 is amount by which x1 is more than x2, z3 is the property/quantity in
> which x1 is more.
>

I am not denying that you may call z3 a quantity, but there is a major
difference
between the natures of "my age" and "one's age". The first is a number, the
second is a mapping. nanca2 is a number, z3 is not.

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

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