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coi

What memorized is the terminology and not the definitions, I hope that
there will be an answer to my question, this link for terminology of
the interest:

http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Words/index.html

note: jargoon file should translated to lojban

http://catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html

co'o
ki'esdi'es.

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On 7 =E3=C7=D1=D3, 09:42, "buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk" <buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> coi
>
> Although I was not skilled in the grammers of Arabic, but I could hear
> the teacher of words such as:
> A second object,The effect for him, Beginner, news, Absolute effect,
> the effect of him, maybe I do not remember there are other things may
> serve ...
>
> =A0But if we get them for sitting bridi structure is the best , instead
> memorize all difinitions.
>
> co'o
> ki'esdi'es
>
> On 6 =E3=C7=D1=D3, 04:15, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tuesday, March 06, 2012 06:52:13 buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > > coi
>
> > > bridi: subject cu verb object x3 x4 x5 vau
>
> > > x1: the subject
> > > x2:the object
> > > x3: what?
> > > x4: what?
> > > x5: what?
>
> > > Or what is the logic used by the scientist in the vocabulary
> > > definition of the dictionary ?
>
> > Most English verbs have no more than three places, where x1 is the subj=
ect, x2
> > is the direct object, and x3 is the indirect object. At least one verb =
(namely
> > "bet") has a fourth place. If "to" is not used to mark the indirect obj=
ect,
> > the order is x1 verb x3 x2 x4.
>
> > In the ergative alignment, x1 is the direct object, x2 is the subject, =
and x3
> > is the indirect object. I don't know any ergative languages.
>
> > Lojban lacks alignment. In a bridi with "dunda", x3 is the indirect obj=
ect,
> > but in a bridi with "grake", x3 isn't a subject, direct object, or indi=
rect
> > object; it's the standard used to define the unit (currently a hunk of =
metal
> > stored in a suburb of Paris, hopefully soon a physical constant like th=
e rest
> > of them). Some categories of brivla have consistent place assignments; =
all
> > second places of words denoting kinds of plant, animal, or other living=
 thing
> > denote a taxon to which the living thing belongs. Similarly all second =
places
> > of measuring words denote the numerical value. But there is no connecti=
on
> > between x2 of grake/mitre/delno and x2 of lanme/tirxu/finpe/xruba.
>
> > Pierre
> > --
> > li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
> > li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci- =C5=CE=DD=C7=C1 =C7=E1=E4=D5 =C7=E1=
=E3=DE=CA=C8=D3 -
>
> - =DA=D1=D6 =C7=E1=E4=D5 =C7=E1=E3=DE=CA=C8=D3 -

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