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Subject: [lojban] Re: bridi structure?
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coi

So, should we follow the logic for each item and this comes through
the practice, it is not wise to memorize the definitions, but the
wisdom of memorize the terminology as I said.

 After all, if there was a general rule later we will be happy.

co'o
ki'esdi'es.

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On 9 =E3=C7=D1=D3, 05:32, "buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk" <buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> coi
>
> What memorized is the terminology and not the definitions, I hope that
> there will be an answer to my question, this link for terminology of
> the interest:
>
> http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Words/index.html
>
> note: jargoon file should translated to lojban
>
> http://catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html
>
> co'o
> ki'esdi'es.
>
> *************************************************************************=
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>
> On 7 =E3=C7=D1=D3, 09:42, "buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk" <buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > coi
>
> > Although I was not skilled in the grammers of Arabic, but I could hear
> > the teacher of words such as:
> > A second object,The effect for him, Beginner, news, Absolute effect,
> > the effect of him, maybe I do not remember there are other things may
> > serve ...
>
> > =A0But if we get them for sitting bridi structure is the best , instead
> > memorize all difinitions.
>
> > co'o
> > ki'esdi'es
>
> > On 6 =E3=C7=D1=D3, 04:15, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>
> > > On Tuesday, March 06, 2012 06:52:13 buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > > > coi
>
> > > > bridi: subject cu verb object x3 x4 x5 vau
>
> > > > x1: the subject
> > > > x2:the object
> > > > x3: what?
> > > > x4: what?
> > > > x5: what?
>
> > > > Or what is the logic used by the scientist in the vocabulary
> > > > definition of the dictionary ?
>
> > > Most English verbs have no more than three places, where x1 is the su=
bject, x2
> > > is the direct object, and x3 is the indirect object. At least one ver=
b (namely
> > > "bet") has a fourth place. If "to" is not used to mark the indirect o=
bject,
> > > the order is x1 verb x3 x2 x4.
>
> > > In the ergative alignment, x1 is the direct object, x2 is the subject=
, and x3
> > > is the indirect object. I don't know any ergative languages.
>
> > > Lojban lacks alignment. In a bridi with "dunda", x3 is the indirect o=
bject,
> > > but in a bridi with "grake", x3 isn't a subject, direct object, or in=
direct
> > > object; it's the standard used to define the unit (currently a hunk o=
f metal
> > > stored in a suburb of Paris, hopefully soon a physical constant like =
the rest
> > > of them). Some categories of brivla have consistent place assignments=
; all
> > > second places of words denoting kinds of plant, animal, or other livi=
ng thing
> > > denote a taxon to which the living thing belongs. Similarly all secon=
d places
> > > of measuring words denote the numerical value. But there is no connec=
tion
> > > between x2 of grake/mitre/delno and x2 of lanme/tirxu/finpe/xruba.
>
> > > Pierre
> > > --
> > > li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
> > > li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci- =C5=CE=DD=C7=C1 =C7=E1=E4=D5 =C7=
=E1=E3=DE=CA=C8=D3 -
>
> > - =DA=D1=D6 =C7=E1=E4=D5 =C7=E1=E3=DE=CA=C8=D3 -- =C5=CE=DD=C7=C1 =C7=
=E1=E4=D5 =C7=E1=E3=DE=CA=C8=D3 -
>
> - =DA=D1=D6 =C7=E1=E4=D5 =C7=E1=E3=DE=CA=C8=D3 -

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