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[98.139.91.78]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id e6si19642012pbt.1.2012.03.12.07.48.22; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.91.78 as permitted sender) client-ip=98.139.91.78; Received: from [98.139.91.68] by nm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 14:48:22 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.227] by tm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 14:47:21 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.121] by t8.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 14:47:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 14:47:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 706755.94591.bm@omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 96909 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2012 14:47:21 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3O.ywtAVM1lxmVQZxcm5bZlkTYEO70UQUZeHt5xuuqPIj70 o8dkAjoGjNsu09CN6GDgpWya4q3w9huqPxybRJ0HBgyTeghrSkR_2QEomWC7 AmsXO0Aqf.b6aeul1R4QNVTTJyAc57eyN0gfOLI_pUBSGpCYEQebw0xqyCOK QUMcZXO4JotRoWhVrcOybuE8k5mN6XlxxqwHUr7pmdjOul3SePSkHQVtGBQn irlcjZv.rvl8.e2MQi0PH.14D7XpHWQ1SGeZH44lwMtkfqsO40MzOMwcB0Kh FK2at6CDfcWmyDWiHS9tkdLaq3NlRejpNeO8znzV7TNjtYOP4aGPK0qBeaJr RVitxY.FlqlmybVuPG0noCN197esfTJrdTQrcbSP3WBVwBs7JLyBa1YPS9hh LLnBzzj_0Sg5P5Yq8GkR8DDtUibHiqvkl.iLjbCxev.BWl9UQaJ6hdhY4z5X nZr9quD22BioUYqUzkeQ10D0r3imR.jCAZXcVSW0iH9B_DLyRd4hhNP9A_D. tpPvxdZz3ViJzDJBftwo6h8q_bIS5xuEqqtq71JVAWRoRgvA9wpRS9PJCCMY dXV32vimRn6I9Awj0vq8- Received: from [99.92.108.194] by web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:47:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.338427 References: <3325018.1470.1331374874547.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbctz2> <4F5C98D1.7000005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1331563640.96903.YahooMailNeo@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:47:20 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Nasal assimilation To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.91.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="931067830-335628915-1331563640=:96903" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --931067830-335628915-1331563640=:96903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, Sanskrit is, if not an invented language, at least an artificial one = as it has come down to us.=A0 Panini's grammar is more prescriptive than de= scriptive, at least as it came to be used. As for assimilation, the rules i= n Panini prescribe what assimilation takes place (all the obvious ones and = some rather surprising ones), so that any deviation from this is just bad S= anskrit (Nehru, I think it was, was looked down on by many Brahmins because= his Sanskrit had an Uttar Pradeshi accent).=A0 I'm not sure that accidenta= l assimilations in Lojban would be so terrible, but they might in some case= s ruin the isomorphism -- better to insert a y or whatever than that. ________________________________ From: Sid To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [lojban] Nasal assimilation =20 Um. 1. Sanskrit was not invented, at least in the way Lojban is. 2. The habit of Sanskrit speakers of writing assimilations down doesn't have much to do with this. mi'e cntr On 11 March 2012 18:03, Escape Landsome wrote: > Perhaps, you touched someting. > > Another well-known invented language is sanskrit, and it was designed > so as to render this kind of "phonetic accident" impossible. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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Well, Sans= krit is, if not an invented language, at least an artificial one as it has = come down to us.  Panini's grammar is more prescriptive than descripti= ve, at least as it came to be used. As for assimilation, the rules in Panin= i prescribe what assimilation takes place (all the obvious ones and some ra= ther surprising ones), so that any deviation from this is just bad Sanskrit= (Nehru, I think it was, was looked down on by many Brahmins because his Sa= nskrit had an Uttar Pradeshi accent).  I'm not sure that accidental as= similations in Lojban would be so terrible, but they might in some cases ru= in the isomorphism -- better to insert a y or whatever than that.


From: Sid <cntrational@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:28= AM
Subject: Re: [lojb= an] Nasal assimilation

Um. 1. Sanskrit was not invented, at least in the way Lojban is. 2.
The = habit of Sanskrit speakers of writing assimilations down doesn't
have mu= ch to do with this.

mi'e cntr

On 11 March 2012 18:03, Escape = Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps, you touche= d someting.
>
> Another well-known invented language is sanskri= t, and it was designed
> so as to render this kind of "phonetic accid= ent" impossible.
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