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doi xorxes,

Can't you define an equivalence relation among valid written texts,
another one among valid speech streams, and then pair-up the
equivalence classes?

Wouldn't that still be an isomorphism?

I understand that the concept is more subtle, but the name is still valid.

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

On 12 March 2012 11:41, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Marjorie Scherf <skaryzgik@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>> =A0I remember one of the big deal ones being that for a
>> given speech stream, there is one spelling for it, and vice versa.
>
> That has never been true though. For example, the two valid but very
> different spellings:
>
> "coi djan i mi klama le zarci" and "coi.djan.imiKLAmaleZARci"
> correspond to the same speech stream.
>
> And similarly the spelling "coi djan i mi klama le zarci" can be
> pronounced with several equivalent but valid and different speech
> streams.
>
> So there is no audiovisual isomorphism. That has always been a misnomer.
>
> What we do have is that all the valid different pronounciations for a
> given spelling have the same meaning, and all the valid different
> spellings for a given speech stream have the same meaning. But that is
> not an isomorphism. I wish people stopped calling it that.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
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