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On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:22:22 Michael Turniansky wrote:
>    It works for me, but why not a more simple "ko'a berstici kartuli
> se kai ko'e"?

*A non-Mingrelian Georgian may be living in Mingrelia, and a Mingrelian may be 
living in southeast Georgia.
*Mingrelians, as a people, are a subset of Georgians, but the Mingrelian 
language is a distinct related language.
*"se kai ko'e" doesn't necessarily imply that ko'e is of a type that can fit 
into x2 of kartuli (or margaluri or fraso autc.), and since you didn't say 
"ko'a berstici kartuli ko'e", gricely implies that it could be something that 
doesn't.

I used "le berstici kartuli" to imply that I had a particular kartuli in mind, 
namely the Mingrelian people, who are kartuli lo ka natmi kei jenai lo ka 
bangu.

Pierre
-- 
loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji

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