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.ua .ui

I believe that {me la .filips.} qualifies as a stage 2 fu'ivla,
according to http://dag.github.com/cll/4/7/

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Kevin Reid <kpreid@switchb.org> wrote:
> On Mar 14, 2012, at 11:42, Escape Landsome wrote:
>
>>> I would say that {kucylupcartci} is a lujvo that I, knowing that there
>>> is an important distinction between phillips and flathead
>>> screwdrivers, might interpret correctly. If I wanted to say it, I'd
>>> probably go with a tanru: {kruca lupcartci} or {me la .filips.
>>> lupcartci}
>>
>> But "Philips" screwdriver is an english-speaking way to call this kind o=
f tool.
>>
>> In France, it is "cruciforme" screwdriver, that is : "in the shape of a =
cross".
>>
>> Thus, the way we lojbanize it, it is not culturally neutral *at all*
>
> "Phillips" is not simply a synonym for "cross-shaped". There are several =
different cross-shaped screw drives, some of which superficially resemble e=
ach other but may be damaged if confused:
>
> =A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives#Cruciform_types
>
> More broadly, specific screw drive designs are inherently (technical-)cul=
ture-specific items.
>
> I believe the appropriate Lojbanization is to use a fu'ivla for the Phill=
ips type in particular, and have words which are specifically vague for cro=
ss-shaped screw drives in general.
>
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