Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:61670) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S7rx0-0007SN-Ar; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:25:27 -0700 Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25sf3535884iah.16 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:25:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=50aW+PcJ27rfjlKHkOUXQRKY9sWjxXxgQateZ2CB2v8=; b=jobxStlubO8LbN67/7G93IiOsBji4aDHnCcbJYOWHvOr7AQwzuO/cno+DeIdNh6YxL rdhFvhmDynoNIUnoDiVPofeaRvJ9m2LAYGCCJ+crCOPlM08tvU0UMl4PcjjYAnD25u97 EXt2t+WG3s9Pban2gf4zfBu4hEHiRxwO4w5xc= Received: by 10.236.180.2 with SMTP id i2mr988166yhm.14.1331745915842; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:25:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.179.173 with SMTP id h33ls3377316yhm.5.gmail; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.119.242 with SMTP id n78mr4299054yhh.4.1331745915104; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.119.242 with SMTP id n78mr4299053yhh.4.1331745915097; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b7si2542065yhm.1.2012.03.14.10.25.13; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from darner.ixazon.lan (darner.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.5]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C2EE2193D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:25:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Playing with Tanru and Fu'ivla... "Philips screwdriver" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:25:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (DragonFly/3.1-DEVELOPMENT; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <68070A5F-29A8-484A-8986-EA071D176260@switchb.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201203141325.11986.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 13:20:56 John E. Clifford wrote: > How universal is the notion of a cross for this design? Or is it peculiar > to Western, Christian, usage? Of course, there were crosses > beforeChristinity and called crosses ( though the Greeks called execution > instrument a post), but is something like that the stock name form two > intersecting more less a right angles? "kruca" doesn't imply an execution device. It just means that something crosses something somewhere. Pierre -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.