Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:41468) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S832o-0003mU-Cu; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:16:18 -0700 Received: by dacx6 with SMTP id x6sf4007485dac.16 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:16:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bR8Df67cnXk5Se/WjJu/QZWavC2SZwdcVc/R5bSu00I=; b=6qdVfq8HbbisSex++5dd/E/XBAr/o1mMUN8u7q4Rb/RlNfuyjATHNSZnqw0lOt2v8A EWQ0hJ68x/8IE+VLVtKpus37Fyf8iiqTI4/3ZNMxm4CT9s2V9QmSHsiy7Dl++lRzSA6b oIwYpGi5kAeyvNrEvLf4GFh3CcfB/9aircpqQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-gm-message-state :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=bR8Df67cnXk5Se/WjJu/QZWavC2SZwdcVc/R5bSu00I=; b=G13r1eNE5h440+bEiGqBQ46owqlc4ifslpNWxD9zTvJyMyHHjBMLaAVfnN6v2U64Aj tbcrMZ087pfI8VThkhBOIzC73Z9NjYYNKDBcJssgDduPp86Lx4/KGlTSqRjk0aFtqBx8 53Mu1RCXGUh3cJ8WxcJbEYdpCTsuNa41R8foJ/24VWJJaFvubRSi9rQ2I5WI3NuRbC84 GnUnnvsP8UfRZWUdBGk4/0vdfuA3ah2vreT4u3IxKrb7oZmtmRQioyS0EP9bF0ExIfAl 3ShlCFjAXsei5cl1zz+PYeB/tVcl/FzKG7cPZccKJZq0wemS1kGYSbksL/H2MbJz3Hnn Ryyg== Received: by 10.68.228.229 with SMTP id sl5mr137876pbc.12.1331788559702; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:15:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.141.9 with SMTP id rk9ls7188261pbb.9.gmail; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.74.201 with SMTP id w9mr828411pbv.0.1331788559133; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.74.201 with SMTP id w9mr828409pbv.0.1331788559112; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f53.google.com (mail-pz0-f53.google.com [209.85.210.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6si1338005pbg.2.2012.03.14.22.15.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.210.53 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ross@rossogilvie.id.au) client-ip=209.85.210.53; Received: by mail-pz0-f53.google.com with SMTP id y25so4291095dad.26 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.234.131 with SMTP id ue3mr2137124pbc.5.1331788557886; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.31.138 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:15:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [129.78.68.1] In-Reply-To: References: <00151747c0e054893604b8f451e5@google.com> <20120214230700.GZ2167@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> From: Ross Ogilvie Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:15:27 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: [lojban] Educational Video To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlZt6ShRBKdppGnDRPh7EX8pEDd8y31FNMCwGmo83guosIplrDfmpIpvgUHA0Oji/Z6VJz4 X-Original-Sender: ross@rossogilvie.id.au X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.210.53 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ross@rossogilvie.id.au) smtp.mail=ross@rossogilvie.id.au Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b33901de8a33c04bb412f2a X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b33901de8a33c04bb412f2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 They finally got back to me. The response is pasted below, but it's basically a no to a redub. :( " We can't give you permission to redub the video, but if you wish to provide a time coded transcript in Lojban we'd add it to the videos so you can have subtitles in the language on the channel. Can you download the English transcript as it stands from the site and return to us translated? If not we can provide it. I hope this suits you. Thanks Rob " On 15 February 2012 11:58, Ross Ogilvie wrote: > I just send them an email ask for permission, mentioning I'm an > Australian student. I'll let you know what they say. > > co'o ros > > On 14 February 2012 15:07, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:43:02PM +0000, rdentato@gmail.com wrote: > >> Il giorno , Jonathan Jones ha scritto: > >> >It's under a Creative Commons license. > >> > >> But it's under the "non derivative" clause. > >> > >> I think that translations count as derivative works. > > > > Yes. > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > li'u > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --047d7b33901de8a33c04bb412f2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They finally got back to me. The response is pasted below, but it's bas= ically a no to a redub. :(

"
We can't give you permiss= ion to redub the video, but if you=20 wish to provide a time coded transcript in Lojban we'd add it to the vi= deos so=20 you can have subtitles in the language on the channel.
=A0
Can you download the English transcript as it stands from the=20 site and return to us translated? If not we can provide it.
=A0
I hope this suits you.
=A0
Thanks
Rob
"


O= n 15 February 2012 11:58, Ross Ogilvie <ross@rossogilvie.id.au> wrote:
I just send them an email ask for permission= , mentioning I'm an
Australian student. I'll let you know what they say.

co'o ros

On 14 February 2012 15:07, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:43:02PM +0000, rdentato@gmail.com wrote:
>> Il giorno , Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> >It's under a Creative Commons license.
>>
>> But it's under the "non derivative" clause.
>>
>> I think that translations count as derivative works.
>
> Yes.
>
> -Robin
>
> --
> http://singinst.org= / : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
> .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li&#= 39;u .e
> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'= u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
> lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu l= o mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro= ups "lojban" group.
> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/= lojban?hl=3Den.
>

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.
--047d7b33901de8a33c04bb412f2a--