Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:34717) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Gcm-0005Ht-Lw; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:46:17 -0700 Received: by wibhq12 with SMTP id hq12sf3480909wib.16 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:46:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JgCdTTF/3e9fdV9Ywg8T4rddmyb7JHoazCQ+QPR4+iU=; b=6jC7BeVLTT5Zg9HojgymWZ4abcBFbgpu5J51Al/YSj3ike5tdqABMzyoayxml7m0sm aHZTC96Wtu8g22PmuV5+BJLHDUKZoT1bVT89/kaTu+3PKyYn3JRbcMbMQtuA19rd1+pk jhnL2hBCdxrb4HM4nI0kuJcy3rtaUVMqOMA0o= Received: by 10.204.128.79 with SMTP id j15mr831059bks.35.1331840761182; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:46:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.226.131 with SMTP id iw3ls5027201bkb.4.gmail; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.153.5 with SMTP id i5mr854864bkw.1.1331840759965; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.153.5 with SMTP id i5mr854863bkw.1.1331840759942; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f53.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5si3488101bkz.0.2012.03.15.12.45.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.53; Received: by lahc1 with SMTP id c1so2951656lah.12 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.25.40 with SMTP id z8mr2908355lbf.11.1331840759525; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1238c2a6-9582-4fd1-adb7-c122292ffb2e@cj6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:45:59 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Rhetoric and Oratory, "the fruit of Arabic" From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040122a35e715e04bb4d578e X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d040122a35e715e04bb4d578e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I really wish buroq would just stick to Arabic a/o Lojban. I can never understand his English. I'm betting Google Translate used on his Arabic would even give better English, and that's saying something. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Muhammad an-Nuqrashi < muhammad.nael@gmail.com> wrote: > Buroq usually omitted the 'be' copula in many places where in Arabic a > 'be' verb/copula isn't needed... This goes on true with adjectives, > placement and presence of the/a, etc... I basically took the meanings of > his words and put them in Arabic ignoring the syntax and grammar he used... > I ended up with a pretty understandable Arabic piece and I added some bits > of my own after translation... > > MN > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d040122a35e715e04bb4d578e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really wish buroq would just stick to Arabic a/o Lojban. I can never unde= rstand his English. I'm betting Google Translate used on his Arabic wou= ld even give better English, and that's saying something.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Muhammad an-Nuqrashi <= ;muhammad.nael@gmail.com>= wrote:
Buroq usually=A0omitted=A0the 'be' copula in many = places where in Arabic a 'be' verb/copula isn't needed... This = goes on true with adjectives, placement and presence of the/a, etc... I=A0b= asically=A0took the meanings of his words and put them in Arabic ignoring t= he syntax and grammar he used... I ended up with a pretty understandable Ar= abic piece and I added some bits of my own after translation...

MN
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