Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f61.google.com ([209.85.215.61]:48652) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S8xIf-0000lm-V3; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:18 -0700 Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3sf4054016lag.16 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ivWNPa0XsiwwPZHrz6gYc7PAMO4JC0coq20T8cqt2xY=; b=Ud1tZhvTpEK9eeApC8m5pCvWroQhh7Tdjk5GQneh8vczTo+6Es7Hpx0rNJCVNJaRJL gZtZisV9C/lHz2crOuL+v1FfgAYtWRhRzFsgqkqWwC2oXn2lxSpwPIUL2N3GxQVwTxAZ 3s2bKA7Jl8w8tItUkL1ZfcgVPcbI+CBfH0hG0= Received: by 10.180.88.101 with SMTP id bf5mr505710wib.4.1332004805219; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.123.143 with SMTP id ma15ls2847562wib.1.canary; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.92.196 with SMTP id co4mr566927wib.2.1332004803547; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.92.196 with SMTP id co4mr566926wib.2.1332004803537; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ef4si1769249wib.1.2012.03.17.10.20.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.182; Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so6312322wer.13 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.95.34 with SMTP id dh2mr7395802wib.15.1332004803324; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.144.212 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1331999955.56355.YahooMailNeo@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:20:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Equivocal tanru From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / 2012/3/17 MorphemeAddict : > Or you can explicitly state all the various ways it's ambiguous. This is not a *very good* solution, for ambiguity is often very wide. For instance, "three men ate four cakes", has a lot of possible meanings... and I'd rather not list all of them. Beyond this simple remark, there's the notion that structural ambiguities come as continuums, whereas more superficial ambiguities often can be listed. But (X Y Z) = perhaps ((X Y) Z) and perhaps (X (Y Z)) [and even perhaps (X ... Z) * Y] is a kind of ambiguity that may seem to be superficial, on a logical-syntactic level, but is a structural deep one, on semantic or pragmatic level [e.g. in poetry] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.