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[98.139.91.72]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id a5si3668174pbd.0.2012.03.19.10.03.32; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.91.72 as permitted sender) client-ip=98.139.91.72; Received: from [98.139.91.68] by nm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2012 17:03:31 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.221] by tm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2012 17:03:31 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.109] by t9.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2012 17:03:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2012 17:03:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 650520.8154.bm@omp1014.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 372 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Mar 2012 17:03:31 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: vuvZrRIVM1nstadRVjXI8eKkxRfRlOQgTD8jk8leq0GGnRW eaY0sCgYrcQDR6blylb0JOWnEVK8jiz0NuIRb4yk_QsbiHcV29MOTQWpyMi. 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On the contrary, if Lojban does allow us to translate recipies, and novels or fictions, but *neither* philosophy *nor* poetry, then... "there is something rotten in the state of Denmark" --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ---1138340925-1704101729-1332176611=:76183 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A (philoso= phical) argument can be made that the inability of Lojban to translate phil= osophy is a positive sign that it is a truly logical language, well suited = for the real world.  But, since it is possible to say nonsense in Lojb= an, I suspect that philosophy will not be a problem (the hardship of vocabu= lary creation aside -- and maybe the necessity of figuring out what these g= uys are really saying, if anything).


From: Escape La= ndsome <escaaape@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Specifi= c terminology - the case of philosophy terminology

Most probably a fiction/novel will have more people interested in, but
t= ranslating philosophy (as well as poetry) is a kind of corner stone :
if= this IS POSSIBLE for Lojban, then anything will be possible.

On the= contrary, if Lojban does allow us to translate recipies, and
novels or = fictions, but *neither* philosophy *nor* poetry, then...
"there is somet= hing rotten in the state of Denmark"

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